After having my JD standing on 3 wheels 3 times on a sidehill with a loaded bucket and a balast box on the back, I decided that was enough and got the tiltmeter, it mounted nicely in the cab and works good but now I think I should have another one. maybe Rick will give big discount on two lol. gary
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Rick,
<font color=blue>Just how open minded are you guys?????</font color=blue>
Thats a truth teller/liar question if I ever saw one. Of course I am open minded, but which am I "Truth Teller" or "Liar".
Without looking back at my initial post I think the thrust of my comment was relatated to false sense of security and not necessarily towards the usefulness of the device for applications other than safety.
<font color=blue>can you
honestly say that a neighbor, a wife,or one of your kids will
never be on your tractor?</font color=blue>
Nope and your point is well taken here.
<font color=blue>Can you eye ball a hillside
your cutting down, for whatever reason, and keep it uniform
all the way across, so you don't have washouts? Can you
keep a pond dam you are dressing up uniform? Can you cut a
new road bed, and make it with a slight slope to allow run-off
but not too much to cause it to wash? </font color=blue>
Yep, to my satisfaction. Would a tilt meter make it easier or better, we will see. But from the view good enough is just that "good enough" maybe not.
Knowing that it is not square, plumb or level or what ever by any instrument does not make it right. A bad carpenter has a full tool box also.
Rick, are you opening yourself up to the other 263 (15% of 1752) people that voted no on the tilt meter poll?/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
<font color=blue> I will eat crow. Will You?????</font color=blue>
I'm not sure anyone needs to eat crow but the answer is:
No, I once ate Seagull (don't ask) and if Crow tastes anywhere near, no way. I will provide my honest evaluation of the tiltmeter. Would you like it posted or sent by private email? I will send my address by private email.
Thanks for the offer RicK
<font color=orange> Al</font color=orange>
<font color=blue>Just how open minded are you guys?????</font color=blue>
Thats a truth teller/liar question if I ever saw one. Of course I am open minded, but which am I "Truth Teller" or "Liar".
Without looking back at my initial post I think the thrust of my comment was relatated to false sense of security and not necessarily towards the usefulness of the device for applications other than safety.
<font color=blue>can you
honestly say that a neighbor, a wife,or one of your kids will
never be on your tractor?</font color=blue>
Nope and your point is well taken here.
<font color=blue>Can you eye ball a hillside
your cutting down, for whatever reason, and keep it uniform
all the way across, so you don't have washouts? Can you
keep a pond dam you are dressing up uniform? Can you cut a
new road bed, and make it with a slight slope to allow run-off
but not too much to cause it to wash? </font color=blue>
Yep, to my satisfaction. Would a tilt meter make it easier or better, we will see. But from the view good enough is just that "good enough" maybe not.
Knowing that it is not square, plumb or level or what ever by any instrument does not make it right. A bad carpenter has a full tool box also.
Rick, are you opening yourself up to the other 263 (15% of 1752) people that voted no on the tilt meter poll?/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
<font color=blue> I will eat crow. Will You?????</font color=blue>
I'm not sure anyone needs to eat crow but the answer is:
No, I once ate Seagull (don't ask) and if Crow tastes anywhere near, no way. I will provide my honest evaluation of the tiltmeter. Would you like it posted or sent by private email? I will send my address by private email.
Thanks for the offer RicK
<font color=orange> Al</font color=orange>
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Bird,
Ok that explains it to me. What you do then is set the meter where you feel comfortable with and then go with that. I thought that it was geared to the tractor rollover specs but it's not. Ok now, just asking, what is the difference then between a tiltmeter and say a protractor from sears that you use to measure angles with? I mean you can pick up a set of those at Sears for $12. I beat the tar out of a pair that I got five years ago and they've held up great. This is the first I've ever heard of a tiltmeter so just asking as I'm still trying to figure out exactly what they are and how to use them. I say my prayers everytime I go to mow this one 40 acre piece that is pretty steep.
Thanks,
Richard
Ok that explains it to me. What you do then is set the meter where you feel comfortable with and then go with that. I thought that it was geared to the tractor rollover specs but it's not. Ok now, just asking, what is the difference then between a tiltmeter and say a protractor from sears that you use to measure angles with? I mean you can pick up a set of those at Sears for $12. I beat the tar out of a pair that I got five years ago and they've held up great. This is the first I've ever heard of a tiltmeter so just asking as I'm still trying to figure out exactly what they are and how to use them. I say my prayers everytime I go to mow this one 40 acre piece that is pretty steep.
Thanks,
Richard
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Twinkle toes,
Ate seagull? Don't ask ? I can't help it-I gotta know!!!!!
Wish I could offer them to everyone. However, I do offer
a no questions asked warranty. Don't like it ? Send it back.
(in good condition of course). I'll even re-imburse you the
original shipping charge. Maybe not a sound financial move,
but I think it is only fair. I posted this about shipping once
before here. I did not get one single meter back. POST YOUR
COMMENTS HERE! I will send you a meter as soon as I get
your shippig address. Ernieb also. Try them for awhile. Post
your thoughts here. I can take it. See something about them
you want changed ? Let me know. You guys are the
customers. Without your thoughts, good or bad, I can only
guess what the real world wants. And thank you for your
reply. As far as a false sense of security, I suppose it is
possible. I have heard that before. But never from someone
that has a meter. Maybe they are out there, but they have
not called me. As Bird stated, the meter helps, along with
other factors, to determine what your limit for your own
machine may be. Again, thanks. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
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http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
Ate seagull? Don't ask ? I can't help it-I gotta know!!!!!
Wish I could offer them to everyone. However, I do offer
a no questions asked warranty. Don't like it ? Send it back.
(in good condition of course). I'll even re-imburse you the
original shipping charge. Maybe not a sound financial move,
but I think it is only fair. I posted this about shipping once
before here. I did not get one single meter back. POST YOUR
COMMENTS HERE! I will send you a meter as soon as I get
your shippig address. Ernieb also. Try them for awhile. Post
your thoughts here. I can take it. See something about them
you want changed ? Let me know. You guys are the
customers. Without your thoughts, good or bad, I can only
guess what the real world wants. And thank you for your
reply. As far as a false sense of security, I suppose it is
possible. I have heard that before. But never from someone
that has a meter. Maybe they are out there, but they have
not called me. As Bird stated, the meter helps, along with
other factors, to determine what your limit for your own
machine may be. Again, thanks. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
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Richard;
This is what I use for a tiltmeter. http://store.yahoo.com/cruiserconnection/levogage.html
Good Luck;
Sim
This is what I use for a tiltmeter. http://store.yahoo.com/cruiserconnection/levogage.html
Good Luck;
Sim
Bird
Rest in Peace
Richard, it's been so long since I used a protractor for anything except short pieces of lumber that I don't think I better try to answer (or maybe I should just say I don't know/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif). You might look at the url listed by Sim and also http://www.tiltmeter.com[/i] The o...s, but they're worth their price to me.
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As far back as I can remember RB has not tried to sell anything. They were drug into this (begged) to answer some questions. They are doing something great. Most manufacturer's won't give a board (or even individuals) the time of day. I know what you guys mean, I've seen boards where it's a constant barrage of this and that. Some manufacturers even post under anonymous names pimping for themselves.
As for tiltmeters themselves, they are just a guide, like a temp guage. Sometimes temp guages can be worthless if they are measuring water as if you blow a hose quickly, the radiator will dump and the temp guage may read LOW temp before the metal transfers enough temp into it.
Besides, without a tiltmeter, how will you be able to brag when you're 60 about the 45 degree slope you were on!
True, it's not a "don't operate- OK to operate" instruction, just something to let you know. As I've mentioned before, I've wanted to tilt my tractors over with a strap and an excavator to see on firm ground sitting stationery at what point they DO tip. But just for fun. My tiltmeter in my head is FAR lower.
And if you are moving or on rough ground anything goes! GO SLow.
If you have a backhoe you have an advantage/disadvantage as it is an adjustable center of gravity machine. Put a boulder in the bucket and stretch it all the way out sideways or backwards and you can help control the situation.
I see guys all the time moving around with the loader bucket in the air. You've gotta go slow with a heavy load, if possible dress up your transport road first, and be ready to lower the load or dump it.
I wish there were more manufacturers like RB out there. Keep on going, businesses like yours ARE appreciated!
del
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As for tiltmeters themselves, they are just a guide, like a temp guage. Sometimes temp guages can be worthless if they are measuring water as if you blow a hose quickly, the radiator will dump and the temp guage may read LOW temp before the metal transfers enough temp into it.
Besides, without a tiltmeter, how will you be able to brag when you're 60 about the 45 degree slope you were on!
True, it's not a "don't operate- OK to operate" instruction, just something to let you know. As I've mentioned before, I've wanted to tilt my tractors over with a strap and an excavator to see on firm ground sitting stationery at what point they DO tip. But just for fun. My tiltmeter in my head is FAR lower.
And if you are moving or on rough ground anything goes! GO SLow.
If you have a backhoe you have an advantage/disadvantage as it is an adjustable center of gravity machine. Put a boulder in the bucket and stretch it all the way out sideways or backwards and you can help control the situation.
I see guys all the time moving around with the loader bucket in the air. You've gotta go slow with a heavy load, if possible dress up your transport road first, and be ready to lower the load or dump it.
I wish there were more manufacturers like RB out there. Keep on going, businesses like yours ARE appreciated!
del
oldcarparts@mygarage.com
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Sims,
The lev-o-gage on the link you showed is a good meter.
I use the same body, from the same mfg. for my model #23.
It is the only glass tube model I offer that I do not make
in my shop. I put my own glass tube in it, and use my own
dampeneing fluid, and custom paint it, and offer a mounting
bracket. For those that do not need special paint, mounting
bracket, or extreme temp. dampeneing fluid, it is truly a good
meter. I am phasing it out with my new model #45. I used
it for 4 yrs. and it has proven a good meter. I will phase it
out, due to o.e.m. pressure about lead time for deliveries.
Sometimes it is not available in the quantities I need for
a couple of o.e.m. customers. Not a bad price either.
I pay more than that for the body alone. Then I add my tube,
custom paint, and brackets. They must buy in extremely
large quantities to get that price. That is another reason I
am phasing it out. The new model #45 I make is cheaper
than the #23, because I make the #45 here. The model you
showed a link to should work well for many applications.
The main belief I have is that ANYONES meter is probably
a good idea on many tractors. Another meter co. is Rieker
Instruments. Do not know the web address, but should not be
hard to find. If their warranty is as good, and customer
service is good, I say go for it. The things I would look for
in any meter, is temp. range, dark body to resist glare,
non-corrosion mounting bolts. Tube protected in body, good
warranty, solid quality, vibration resistant. ( some meters will
stick because of static electricity build up under heavy
vibration.) We have done tests here due to liability, and we
are aware of what competitions models stick and what
doesn't. (will not reveal who's models stick and whose do not.
I will not say anything bad about competitiors.) They made
their models for general use, and I make mine for specific
off road, use. Plenty of room out there for all of us.
All meters are good for something. It is up to the customer
to decide what the best meter for their use is. Again, the
model shown in the link is a good meter, and will work well
in many instances. Rick
.
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
The lev-o-gage on the link you showed is a good meter.
I use the same body, from the same mfg. for my model #23.
It is the only glass tube model I offer that I do not make
in my shop. I put my own glass tube in it, and use my own
dampeneing fluid, and custom paint it, and offer a mounting
bracket. For those that do not need special paint, mounting
bracket, or extreme temp. dampeneing fluid, it is truly a good
meter. I am phasing it out with my new model #45. I used
it for 4 yrs. and it has proven a good meter. I will phase it
out, due to o.e.m. pressure about lead time for deliveries.
Sometimes it is not available in the quantities I need for
a couple of o.e.m. customers. Not a bad price either.
I pay more than that for the body alone. Then I add my tube,
custom paint, and brackets. They must buy in extremely
large quantities to get that price. That is another reason I
am phasing it out. The new model #45 I make is cheaper
than the #23, because I make the #45 here. The model you
showed a link to should work well for many applications.
The main belief I have is that ANYONES meter is probably
a good idea on many tractors. Another meter co. is Rieker
Instruments. Do not know the web address, but should not be
hard to find. If their warranty is as good, and customer
service is good, I say go for it. The things I would look for
in any meter, is temp. range, dark body to resist glare,
non-corrosion mounting bolts. Tube protected in body, good
warranty, solid quality, vibration resistant. ( some meters will
stick because of static electricity build up under heavy
vibration.) We have done tests here due to liability, and we
are aware of what competitions models stick and what
doesn't. (will not reveal who's models stick and whose do not.
I will not say anything bad about competitiors.) They made
their models for general use, and I make mine for specific
off road, use. Plenty of room out there for all of us.
All meters are good for something. It is up to the customer
to decide what the best meter for their use is. Again, the
model shown in the link is a good meter, and will work well
in many instances. Rick
.
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
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Sim,
Ok yea that's more what I had in mind and pricewise. I'm sure that the R&B ones are much better quality and built and have a bracket, but from what I can see the same principle. I just thought that I was missing something. I thought that was alot for an angle finder but I don't begrudge anyone and their business or prices. Same principle with deere. Three lights to put on my tractor from them was $112. Stopped by Farm & Fleet on the way home tonight and bought three 3x5 55 watt halogen tractor lights with the brackets for $12 a piece. Same thing and very well made. Now I just have to figure out where to wire them in. On the other hand when I put the propane injection system on my pickup there were guys making their own and the plans and design were on the ford diesel website. Cost about $200 to make one and $399 to buy one from the mfg. Figured that extra $200 was worth their better design and didn't quite trust myself with that one. So it's all a matter of choice and priority.
Thanks for the pic and the info.
Richard
Ok yea that's more what I had in mind and pricewise. I'm sure that the R&B ones are much better quality and built and have a bracket, but from what I can see the same principle. I just thought that I was missing something. I thought that was alot for an angle finder but I don't begrudge anyone and their business or prices. Same principle with deere. Three lights to put on my tractor from them was $112. Stopped by Farm & Fleet on the way home tonight and bought three 3x5 55 watt halogen tractor lights with the brackets for $12 a piece. Same thing and very well made. Now I just have to figure out where to wire them in. On the other hand when I put the propane injection system on my pickup there were guys making their own and the plans and design were on the ford diesel website. Cost about $200 to make one and $399 to buy one from the mfg. Figured that extra $200 was worth their better design and didn't quite trust myself with that one. So it's all a matter of choice and priority.
Thanks for the pic and the info.
Richard
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Bird,
thanks for the info. I was really hoping that there was more to them than what there is is all. I know I could sure find a use for most all attachments, but don't know about finding that much money!!!
Richard
thanks for the info. I was really hoping that there was more to them than what there is is all. I know I could sure find a use for most all attachments, but don't know about finding that much money!!!
Richard
gordon
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Dan I don't believe in any way shape or form that Tiltmeter is here JUST to sell something. Nor do I buy into that he is trying to scare anyone into buying a Tiltmeter. Let me explain why.
I've read all of the posts from R&B since they have started posting here and if you do the same you will quickly find that they are not out for a quick buck but here for the long run. They have posted truthfully both good and bad. They had a problem with one of their meters and QUICKLY posted about the problem as soon as they knew about it, also they stood behind their product and made good on it.
Most Manufacturs won't even post let alone post about a problem. This should say something about the caliber of company that your dealing with here. They have also used this board as a sounding board for ideas and have used some of the ideas they were brought up here. Is that a bad thing, I don't think so. Who better to help r&d a product than end users.
Do I own a tiltmeter YES will I buy another YES was I scared into buying one of these NO. Do I have alot of experience on a tractor YES. Do I let the tiltmeter override my gut feeling HECK NO. Bottom line the tiltmeter is a gauge that measures tilt, like any other gauge be it oil water or fuel level it's just that no more no less just a gauge. Do I let this gauge override my surivial instincts no I would be quite foolish if I did. Does it or has it helped yes it has and that is why I'll buy another.
A tiltmeter is sort of like hand sharpening a saw chain. You might be able to guess close at the angle but you really have no idea of what that angle actually is. I know I feel better with one. Not only for tipovers but for lines and grades as well.
The best thing is if it stops one person from being hurt or worse killed then I think that is great.
I will close in saying keep up the great work R&B and I'm in the 85 percentile that think every tractor should have one.
nuff said
Gordon
I've read all of the posts from R&B since they have started posting here and if you do the same you will quickly find that they are not out for a quick buck but here for the long run. They have posted truthfully both good and bad. They had a problem with one of their meters and QUICKLY posted about the problem as soon as they knew about it, also they stood behind their product and made good on it.
Most Manufacturs won't even post let alone post about a problem. This should say something about the caliber of company that your dealing with here. They have also used this board as a sounding board for ideas and have used some of the ideas they were brought up here. Is that a bad thing, I don't think so. Who better to help r&d a product than end users.
Do I own a tiltmeter YES will I buy another YES was I scared into buying one of these NO. Do I have alot of experience on a tractor YES. Do I let the tiltmeter override my gut feeling HECK NO. Bottom line the tiltmeter is a gauge that measures tilt, like any other gauge be it oil water or fuel level it's just that no more no less just a gauge. Do I let this gauge override my surivial instincts no I would be quite foolish if I did. Does it or has it helped yes it has and that is why I'll buy another.
A tiltmeter is sort of like hand sharpening a saw chain. You might be able to guess close at the angle but you really have no idea of what that angle actually is. I know I feel better with one. Not only for tipovers but for lines and grades as well.
The best thing is if it stops one person from being hurt or worse killed then I think that is great.
I will close in saying keep up the great work R&B and I'm in the 85 percentile that think every tractor should have one.
nuff said
Gordon
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JCWhitney has a grade/tilt indicator for $19.95 that displays both front to back and side to side angle without having to look forward for one and sideways for the other. Part # 1AS3559W
http://www.jcwhitney.com/SearchCatContainer.jhtml?_DARGS=/SearchCatPart.jhtml
Andy
http://www.jcwhitney.com/SearchCatContainer.jhtml?_DARGS=/SearchCatPart.jhtml
Andy
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Rick,
<font color=blue>Ate seagull? Don't ask ? I can't help it-I gotta know!!!!!</font color=blue>
All your getting out of me is a hunting ethic "you eat what you kill" a lot of beer and a slingshot. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Best of luck to you and Brenda in your enterprise, you are certainly customer driven. I appreciate your participation on this board /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Al
<font color=blue>Ate seagull? Don't ask ? I can't help it-I gotta know!!!!!</font color=blue>
All your getting out of me is a hunting ethic "you eat what you kill" a lot of beer and a slingshot. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Best of luck to you and Brenda in your enterprise, you are certainly customer driven. I appreciate your participation on this board /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Al
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Time for my .02. Rick, to the best of my knowledge came to this board at our request. He didn’t come come here with the singular intention to advertise. The vast majority Rick’s posts that give product descriptions and uses have been answers to requests for them. You will find as you read his posts, that he is a very conscientious person. He has tried his best to answer all the questions that has been put to him. Not once has he bad mouth a competitor or anyone else. He has put his product quality and his word above monetarily profit. I have never heard of or done business with a company that stood by their warranty the way R&B does. Rick and Brenda are in business to make a living, but they also have the honest desire to try to help others.
Yes, I do have a pair of tiltmeters. No, I won't totally relay on them for my safety. As its been said before, they are a gauge, with the same purpose as any other gauge. They are to aid you in making informed decisions. Plus they have the added benefit of being used to put in more precise grades.
To bad other companies can’t bring their self to talk openly to end-users. They could also learn something about good business from R&B.
JerryG
Yes, I do have a pair of tiltmeters. No, I won't totally relay on them for my safety. As its been said before, they are a gauge, with the same purpose as any other gauge. They are to aid you in making informed decisions. Plus they have the added benefit of being used to put in more precise grades.
To bad other companies can’t bring their self to talk openly to end-users. They could also learn something about good business from R&B.
JerryG
ERNIEB
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RBManufacturing, First off, I am self employed, and have made honesty and fairness the cornerstone of my business, even when it ends up with me taking a loss. I consider myself very open minded.
The comment I made on this thread, is the only comment I have ever made on tiltmeters. You can look through all the other tiltmeter posts, and there are plenty, and confirm that.
My comment was plain enough, and I stick by it.
I think I know my land, my tractor, and how I use it. I just don't think a tiltmeter would be of any use to me. You seem to be saying that if I were to use one, some unknown value would suddenly appear. Well, Maybe. Like I said I'm open minded.
I'll take you up on your offer if you will agree to the following conditions.
1. I will not do anything different than what I now do. Plain and simple.
2. I will not construct any type of mounting device to hold the tiltmeter.
3. My evaluation will be honest. I respect the fact that you buy ad space on site that I use and enjoy. But ANYONE who comes on the board and asks for an honest opinion, is going to get just that from me.
The ball is now in your court. You have dozens of people here who would be willing to stand in line to praise your tiltmeter. Do you still want me to test it?
Ernie
"It will be appalling to you to learn, and see herewith inclosed our alarming weakness"
James C. Neill, Alamo commander Jan. 1836
The comment I made on this thread, is the only comment I have ever made on tiltmeters. You can look through all the other tiltmeter posts, and there are plenty, and confirm that.
My comment was plain enough, and I stick by it.
I think I know my land, my tractor, and how I use it. I just don't think a tiltmeter would be of any use to me. You seem to be saying that if I were to use one, some unknown value would suddenly appear. Well, Maybe. Like I said I'm open minded.
I'll take you up on your offer if you will agree to the following conditions.
1. I will not do anything different than what I now do. Plain and simple.
2. I will not construct any type of mounting device to hold the tiltmeter.
3. My evaluation will be honest. I respect the fact that you buy ad space on site that I use and enjoy. But ANYONE who comes on the board and asks for an honest opinion, is going to get just that from me.
The ball is now in your court. You have dozens of people here who would be willing to stand in line to praise your tiltmeter. Do you still want me to test it?
Ernie
"It will be appalling to you to learn, and see herewith inclosed our alarming weakness"
James C. Neill, Alamo commander Jan. 1836
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Using the tiltmeter as an aid in cutting a grade is an illegal and inappropriate use! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
That's kind of using it backwards, I may try that myself. My "eye" never seems to do the job and can never convince the wife to spend the day standing around with the transit stick in her hand!
Thanks!
del
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That's kind of using it backwards, I may try that myself. My "eye" never seems to do the job and can never convince the wife to spend the day standing around with the transit stick in her hand!
Thanks!
del
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ddl
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My problem with these meters is that from the postings, the meters are to help in preventing rollovers. The only devices that will do that is a device that can tell in advance the slope or condition of the surface before you get to that surface. Rollovers are caused by sudden change in grade. Like a hole or driving or dropping the wheel into a ditch covered with tall grass or weeds. From all the posts, the one that made the most sense was from Harv who before he had his tractor mounted the meter on a board and went and checked the grade of slopes. Used in this way, one can in advance tell the grade. As far as a company writing posts here, I would rather hear from users, and given the link to their site, then I could go there. There are lots of newsgroups that start out covering the subject they were intended to but turned into posts from companies. Basically the turned into free ads. Hope this does not happen here, that is way some newsgroups do not allow that to happen, no matter how good the poster orginal intent was. JMHO
Dan L
Dan L
RBManufacturing
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ERNIEB,
Indeed, I agree totally with your conditions. I hope you find
some hidden use for the meter (hopefully not as a boat
anchor). I agree, some may have no use for it. With all the
praise we get here, we also want to hear the criticism. As
said before, we cannot improve without it. I can make most
any kind of meter, and use my own judgement in its design,
but if you the customers see no benefit in using it, what's
the point. We started this company using meters made
elsewhere, and made changes to fit our customers needs.
We now make most of the meters ourselves. We did so to be
able to better meet buyers demands. As finances allow, and
customers demand, we will continue to make or change what
we sell. (example; replacing model #23 with my own model
#45). If you, ERNIEB, have negative feelings about the
meter I send you, so be it. Post your thoughts here. As
stated, I do not expect everyone to like or need one. But I
only ask a fair test. Still no like??? That's cool too. My main
belief is still- those that could benefit from a meter, should
get one, and learn to use it properly. ANYONES METER.
Another good source for a meter is www.slopemeter.com
One of my competitiors. And I will try to find Riekers web
address today also, for those interested. Hope this helps.
Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
Indeed, I agree totally with your conditions. I hope you find
some hidden use for the meter (hopefully not as a boat
anchor). I agree, some may have no use for it. With all the
praise we get here, we also want to hear the criticism. As
said before, we cannot improve without it. I can make most
any kind of meter, and use my own judgement in its design,
but if you the customers see no benefit in using it, what's
the point. We started this company using meters made
elsewhere, and made changes to fit our customers needs.
We now make most of the meters ourselves. We did so to be
able to better meet buyers demands. As finances allow, and
customers demand, we will continue to make or change what
we sell. (example; replacing model #23 with my own model
#45). If you, ERNIEB, have negative feelings about the
meter I send you, so be it. Post your thoughts here. As
stated, I do not expect everyone to like or need one. But I
only ask a fair test. Still no like??? That's cool too. My main
belief is still- those that could benefit from a meter, should
get one, and learn to use it properly. ANYONES METER.
Another good source for a meter is www.slopemeter.com
One of my competitiors. And I will try to find Riekers web
address today also, for those interested. Hope this helps.
Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
RBManufacturing
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Sims,
You may want to check the tube in the meter you have.
According to the mfg. it is a rubber tube, and made for use
in a closed cab, like a s..u.v. or inside a camper. The maker
says the tube can sag in hot weather. Still a good meter and
price if it fits your application. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
You may want to check the tube in the meter you have.
According to the mfg. it is a rubber tube, and made for use
in a closed cab, like a s..u.v. or inside a camper. The maker
says the tube can sag in hot weather. Still a good meter and
price if it fits your application. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
RBManufacturing
Gold Member
- Joined
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- Messages
- 278
- Location
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- Tractor
- Ford 8N / Kubota B 6200. Kubota B 7100. Modified wards lawn tractor. Souped up.
Hi Guys,
The Rieker web site is : www.RiekerInc.com They sell quite
a few tiltmeters also. (another competitor) however, choose
carefully when buying any meter. Make sure it is static
resistant, the glass tube is completely recessed, and is
designed for rough, off highway use, and is totally weather
and temperature tolerant. A rubber tube model will fade in
the sun, and the tube can sag and cause false readings.
Suddenly the few bucks you saved doesn't look so good
when you are laying on the ground looking up. Please check
thoroughly, any meter you buy. If it is designed for a camper,
or in cab use only, I hope you keep looking. Sure, I hope you
call me, but there are surely other meters out there that will
do the trick also. I have posted two, that buyers may want
to check out. What ever anyone decides, KEEP IT SAFE GUYS!
P.S. Ernieb. Your meter mailed today, for your opinion.
Thanks for agreeing to check it out. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
The Rieker web site is : www.RiekerInc.com They sell quite
a few tiltmeters also. (another competitor) however, choose
carefully when buying any meter. Make sure it is static
resistant, the glass tube is completely recessed, and is
designed for rough, off highway use, and is totally weather
and temperature tolerant. A rubber tube model will fade in
the sun, and the tube can sag and cause false readings.
Suddenly the few bucks you saved doesn't look so good
when you are laying on the ground looking up. Please check
thoroughly, any meter you buy. If it is designed for a camper,
or in cab use only, I hope you keep looking. Sure, I hope you
call me, but there are surely other meters out there that will
do the trick also. I have posted two, that buyers may want
to check out. What ever anyone decides, KEEP IT SAFE GUYS!
P.S. Ernieb. Your meter mailed today, for your opinion.
Thanks for agreeing to check it out. Rick
Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814
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