Tiltmeters-Why Not?

[gordon]

Dan I don't believe in any way shape or form that Tiltmeter is here JUST to sell something. Nor do I buy into that he is trying to scare anyone into buying a Tiltmeter. Let me explain why.

I've read all of the posts from R&B since they have started posting here and if you do the same you will quickly find that they are not out for a quick buck but here for the long run. They have posted truthfully both good and bad. They had a problem with one of their meters and QUICKLY posted about the problem as soon as they knew about it, also they stood behind their product and made good on it.

Most Manufacturs won't even post let alone post about a problem. This should say something about the caliber of company that your dealing with here. They have also used this board as a sounding board for ideas and have used some of the ideas they were brought up here. Is that a bad thing, I don't think so. Who better to help r&d a product than end users.

Do I own a tiltmeter YES will I buy another YES was I scared into buying one of these NO. Do I have alot of experience on a tractor YES. Do I let the tiltmeter override my gut feeling HECK NO. Bottom line the tiltmeter is a gauge that measures tilt, like any other gauge be it oil water or fuel level it's just that no more no less just a gauge. Do I let this gauge override my surivial instincts no I would be quite foolish if I did. Does it or has it helped yes it has and that is why I'll buy another.

A tiltmeter is sort of like hand sharpening a saw chain. You might be able to guess close at the angle but you really have no idea of what that angle actually is. I know I feel better with one. Not only for tipovers but for lines and grades as well.

The best thing is if it stops one person from being hurt or worse killed then I think that is great.

I will close in saying keep up the great work R&B and I'm in the 85 percentile that think every tractor should have one.
nuff said
Gordon

 

[Anonymous Poster]

JCWhitney has a grade/tilt indicator for $19.95 that displays both front to back and side to side angle without having to look forward for one and sideways for the other. Part # 1AS3559W

http://www.jcwhitney.com/SearchCatContainer.jhtml?_DARGS=/SearchCatPart.jhtml

Andy

 

[TWINKLE_TOES]

Rick,

<font color=blue>Ate seagull? Don't ask ? I can't help it-I gotta know!!!!!</font color=blue>

All your getting out of me is a hunting ethic "you eat what you kill" a lot of beer and a slingshot. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Best of luck to you and Brenda in your enterprise, you are certainly customer driven. I appreciate your participation on this board /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Al

 

[JerryG]

Time for my .02. Rick, to the best of my knowledge came to this board at our request. He didn’t come come here with the singular intention to advertise. The vast majority Rick’s posts that give product descriptions and uses have been answers to requests for them. You will find as you read his posts, that he is a very conscientious person. He has tried his best to answer all the questions that has been put to him. Not once has he bad mouth a competitor or anyone else. He has put his product quality and his word above monetarily profit. I have never heard of or done business with a company that stood by their warranty the way R&B does. Rick and Brenda are in business to make a living, but they also have the honest desire to try to help others.
Yes, I do have a pair of tiltmeters. No, I won't totally relay on them for my safety. As its been said before, they are a gauge, with the same purpose as any other gauge. They are to aid you in making informed decisions. Plus they have the added benefit of being used to put in more precise grades.

To bad other companies can’t bring their self to talk openly to end-users. They could also learn something about good business from R&B.

JerryG

 

[ERNIEB]

RBManufacturing, First off, I am self employed, and have made honesty and fairness the cornerstone of my business, even when it ends up with me taking a loss. I consider myself very open minded.
The comment I made on this thread, is the only comment I have ever made on tiltmeters. You can look through all the other tiltmeter posts, and there are plenty, and confirm that.
My comment was plain enough, and I stick by it.
I think I know my land, my tractor, and how I use it. I just don't think a tiltmeter would be of any use to me. You seem to be saying that if I were to use one, some unknown value would suddenly appear. Well, Maybe. Like I said I'm open minded.
I'll take you up on your offer if you will agree to the following conditions.
1. I will not do anything different than what I now do. Plain and simple.
2. I will not construct any type of mounting device to hold the tiltmeter.
3. My evaluation will be honest. I respect the fact that you buy ad space on site that I use and enjoy. But ANYONE who comes on the board and asks for an honest opinion, is going to get just that from me.
The ball is now in your court. You have dozens of people here who would be willing to stand in line to praise your tiltmeter. Do you still want me to test it?



Ernie
"It will be appalling to you to learn, and see herewith inclosed our alarming weakness"
James C. Neill, Alamo commander Jan. 1836

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Using the tiltmeter as an aid in cutting a grade is an illegal and inappropriate use! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

That's kind of using it backwards, I may try that myself. My "eye" never seems to do the job and can never convince the wife to spend the day standing around with the transit stick in her hand!

Thanks!

del

oldcarparts@mygarage.com

 

[ddl]

My problem with these meters is that from the postings, the meters are to help in preventing rollovers. The only devices that will do that is a device that can tell in advance the slope or condition of the surface before you get to that surface. Rollovers are caused by sudden change in grade. Like a hole or driving or dropping the wheel into a ditch covered with tall grass or weeds. From all the posts, the one that made the most sense was from Harv who before he had his tractor mounted the meter on a board and went and checked the grade of slopes. Used in this way, one can in advance tell the grade. As far as a company writing posts here, I would rather hear from users, and given the link to their site, then I could go there. There are lots of newsgroups that start out covering the subject they were intended to but turned into posts from companies. Basically the turned into free ads. Hope this does not happen here, that is way some newsgroups do not allow that to happen, no matter how good the poster orginal intent was. JMHO
Dan L

 

[RBManufacturing]

ERNIEB,
Indeed, I agree totally with your conditions. I hope you find
some hidden use for the meter (hopefully not as a boat
anchor). I agree, some may have no use for it. With all the
praise we get here, we also want to hear the criticism. As
said before, we cannot improve without it. I can make most
any kind of meter, and use my own judgement in its design,
but if you the customers see no benefit in using it, what's
the point. We started this company using meters made
elsewhere, and made changes to fit our customers needs.
We now make most of the meters ourselves. We did so to be
able to better meet buyers demands. As finances allow, and
customers demand, we will continue to make or change what
we sell. (example; replacing model #23 with my own model
#45). If you, ERNIEB, have negative feelings about the
meter I send you, so be it. Post your thoughts here. As
stated, I do not expect everyone to like or need one. But I
only ask a fair test. Still no like??? That's cool too. My main
belief is still- those that could benefit from a meter, should
get one, and learn to use it properly. ANYONES METER.
Another good source for a meter is www.slopemeter.com
One of my competitiors. And I will try to find Riekers web
address today also, for those interested. Hope this helps.
Rick

Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814

 

[RBManufacturing]

Sims,
You may want to check the tube in the meter you have.
According to the mfg. it is a rubber tube, and made for use
in a closed cab, like a s..u.v. or inside a camper. The maker
says the tube can sag in hot weather. Still a good meter and
price if it fits your application. Rick

Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814

 

[RBManufacturing]

Hi Guys,
The Rieker web site is : www.RiekerInc.com They sell quite
a few tiltmeters also. (another competitor) however, choose
carefully when buying any meter. Make sure it is static
resistant, the glass tube is completely recessed, and is
designed for rough, off highway use, and is totally weather
and temperature tolerant. A rubber tube model will fade in
the sun, and the tube can sag and cause false readings.
Suddenly the few bucks you saved doesn't look so good
when you are laying on the ground looking up. Please check
thoroughly, any meter you buy. If it is designed for a camper,
or in cab use only, I hope you keep looking. Sure, I hope you
call me, but there are surely other meters out there that will
do the trick also. I have posted two, that buyers may want
to check out. What ever anyone decides, KEEP IT SAFE GUYS!
P.S. Ernieb. Your meter mailed today, for your opinion.
Thanks for agreeing to check it out. Rick

Rick Hedgecock
R&B Manufacturing
http://www.tiltmeter.com
(816)587-9814