Finally starting on the building demo. Hoping to have everything stripped out by this weekend. Definitely not one of my favorite jobs.
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2017-11-15_09-46-47Timber Frame Build - Round 2
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BigBoyToys
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Let the "TRANSFORMATION" begin!!! :cool2:
Can't wait to see the install! :licking:
Can't wait to see the install! :licking:
Still looking at 1st or 2nd week of Jan for timbers at the moment.
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EddieWalker
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I'm not a fan of demo either. That make it look like fun on the TV Shows, but all they are doing is creating a bigger mess.
Are you going to save that insulation? I had a client do that. They filled up two storage sheds with it and lost about half because of moisture. In the end, I didn't think it saved them anything, but they felt it was a great idea.
Are you going to save that insulation? I had a client do that. They filled up two storage sheds with it and lost about half because of moisture. In the end, I didn't think it saved them anything, but they felt it was a great idea.
The insulation is the only thing I'm saving. Ive been rolling it back up and putting on pallets. Plenty of shop space on the back half of the building to store it. I plan to use it in the walls after we frame them up.
Ceiling is stripped. Planning to role up the insulation tomorrow and drop the rest of the grid. Ill be glad when this part of the project is done.
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EddieWalker
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Smart getting that scissor lift. I was wondering how you where doing this.
The scissor lift was well worth the rental rate. I can't imaging doing the work without it. All of the ceiling is stripped. I ended up taking all of the tiles and insulation out first then came back and dropped the grid. With the lift I was able to pile a couple of rows of tiles on top of the lift at a time and then drive it right out the building to the dumpster and toss in without ever getting off. Hoping to start tearing out sheetrock tomorrow afternoon.
Heading to Olathe KS tomorrow to pick up a couple of barn doors that I bought at auction. I plan to use them on the inside of the south end of the building. I have a set of patio doors going in there. The barn doors will frame the patio doors and also be able slide to cover the patio doors and serve as part of a wedding backdrop for inside weddings. Originally I planned to make them myself, however for the price I couldn't pass them up. They were very similar to what I had in mind to build. Paid $460 for the pair. They were custom built and never installed. 9' x 5' walnut and pine and included the rolling hardware. I'll post some pics when I get them home.
Also picked up bathroom tile today. Tile work for bathroom remodel starts later this week.
Heading to Olathe KS tomorrow to pick up a couple of barn doors that I bought at auction. I plan to use them on the inside of the south end of the building. I have a set of patio doors going in there. The barn doors will frame the patio doors and also be able slide to cover the patio doors and serve as part of a wedding backdrop for inside weddings. Originally I planned to make them myself, however for the price I couldn't pass them up. They were very similar to what I had in mind to build. Paid $460 for the pair. They were custom built and never installed. 9' x 5' walnut and pine and included the rolling hardware. I'll post some pics when I get them home.
Also picked up bathroom tile today. Tile work for bathroom remodel starts later this week.
EddieWalker
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It's amazing what materials cost, and when you add your time into it, I've found it always cheaper to buy already made if you can.
Here's a pic of the doors I picked up today. They look a lot more impressive in person. They are 110" x 64". Came with the rolling hardware and brackets for the track. I will need to pick up the steel track for the rollers to sit on. in the background is the current overhead door. That door will be removed and replaced with a set of patio doors. The barn doors will sit on each side of the new patio doors.
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2017-11-21_09-02-55Starting to feel like some progress is being made. I have someone who wants to salvage the pine on the walls which was fine by me. They will be removing that on Monday. A friend of mine stripped some of it already. Going to let them strip and take the osb as well. I planned to save it however most of the trim nails are going to be left in the osb as the pine is removed. I just don't have the time to go through and remove them all to make it usable.
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We are also starting the bathroom remodels. Women's bathroom demo is done and our tile guy started floor tile this evening. Need to strip out the mens bathroom next.
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Our tenants who are living in the home upstairs on the back half of the building move out in 10 days. We have some work up there to do as well. New carpet, paint, turn one of the bedrooms into a makeup room, etc. There is going to be no shortage of work to be done after this week.
2017-11-22_09-39-23We are also starting the bathroom remodels. Women's bathroom demo is done and our tile guy started floor tile this evening. Need to strip out the mens bathroom next.
2017-11-22_09-07-37 2017-11-22_09-07-19 2017-11-22_09-23-22 Our tenants who are living in the home upstairs on the back half of the building move out in 10 days. We have some work up there to do as well. New carpet, paint, turn one of the bedrooms into a makeup room, etc. There is going to be no shortage of work to be done after this week.
We are now officially on the board for a frame raising. Our framers have scheduled us for Jan 8th to begin the install of the timber frame. I also just purchased this piece of redwood to be used as our bar top for the remodel.
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Anyone have any recommendations for a protective finish. When we did the home build I made a hanging bathroom vanity top from a redwood slab as well. For it I applied several coats of a marine grade polyurethane. So far it has held up perfect from everyday use. Since this one will most likely see a lot of beer/water on it I'm thinking of going with a clear epoxy coating. Figure it would be a little thicker and durable for long term use.
redwood slab1 Anyone have any recommendations for a protective finish. When we did the home build I made a hanging bathroom vanity top from a redwood slab as well. For it I applied several coats of a marine grade polyurethane. So far it has held up perfect from everyday use. Since this one will most likely see a lot of beer/water on it I'm thinking of going with a clear epoxy coating. Figure it would be a little thicker and durable for long term use.
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We are now officially on the board for a frame raising. Our framers have scheduled us for Jan 8th to begin the install of the timber frame. I also just purchased this piece of redwood to be used as our bar top for the remodel.
Anyone have any recommendations for a protective finish. When we did the home build I made a hanging bathroom vanity top from a redwood slab as well. For it I applied several coats of a marine grade polyurethane. So far it has held up perfect from everyday use. Since this one will most likely see a lot of beer/water on it I'm thinking of going with a clear epoxy coating. Figure it would be a little thicker and durable for long term use.
This is not traditional joinery is it?! Seems really wrong to call it a raising when it's all getting bolted together. Maybe that's just me. :confused3:.
Very pretty slab though. Not out of place in Missouri? I guess most people don't really care about that kinda thing. :confused3:
The frame is all traditional joinery, no bolts, just oak pegs to tie the joinery together. See post #117 of this thread for a pic of one of the bents being fitted. So yes it is a raising in my book even though no ropes or horses will be involved.
I did get a bit of a chuckle about your Missouri comment. I've got a pretty good vision of the finished project and how all of the pieces I plan to use will tie in together. I'm wondering what a Missouri bar top should look like? Lol. Here's a pic of our bathroom vanity I did using a redwood slab during our home build. We think it looks just fine here in the Midwest.
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The frame is all traditional joinery, no bolts, just oak pegs to tie the joinery together. See post #117 of this thread for a pic of one of the bents being fitted. So yes it is a raising in my book even though no ropes or horses will be involved.
I did get a bit of a chuckle about your Missouri comment. I've got a pretty good vision of the finished project and how all of the pieces I plan to use will tie in together. I'm wondering what a Missouri bar top should look like? Lol. Here's a pic of our bathroom vanity I did using a redwood slab during our home build. We think it looks just fine here in the Midwest.
That's cool you were willing to pay for real joints! :thumbsup:
As far as the Redwood... Like I said, most people don't really care or think about where goods come from anymore (Redwood is, as far as I know, not native to Missouri). Oh well. Not a criticism at all mostly a tangental comment on society.
Just ignore me. The bathroom is beautiful. :drink:
Lol. No it's not native to Missouri but sure would be cool if it was. Yosemite is on my bucket list. Would love to go see the giant sequoias someday. As far a the joinery after our home build it really wasn't an option for us. The craftsmanship of true timberframing just can't really be replicated with a bolt up kit imo. I only chuckled when I saw your comment because a lot of people only think of dear antler chandeliers and dead animals on the walls when they think of Missouri. No reason in my book all of the materials have to be native as long as they work well together in the finished design. Still trying to decide what I want to do on the far end wall. Thinking of a feature wall with some reclaimed barnwood but still not quite sure yet. I'm hesitant to go too rustic so as to limit the appeal to just one segment of customer.
EddieWalker
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I'm from CA and if you want to see huge Redwoods, you have to go to the Northern Coast of the state. If you want to see the Giant Sequoias, you have to go to the Southern end of the Sierra Nevada's, with Yosemite somewhere in the middle of that drive. I grew up with redwood being available to buy at the hardware stores. All our fences where made out of redwood. If you ever go into any of the old mansions, the beams and a lot of the wood used was very old growth redwood with grain so fine and clear that it was as near perfection as you could ever get.
Then the spotted owl hoax started and logging of redwood trees pretty much stopped. It took years before the so called environmentalist would admit that the reason they where seeing fewer spotted owls in the old growth redwood forests was because the spotted owls moved to the new growth areas where they could hunt easier and do better. Even worse for those causing all the logging companies to shut down was that the Southern Spotted Owl was identical in every way to the so called endangered Spotted Owl.
Now there are almost no logging mills left in Northern CA and the loggers sell the logs to Chinese ships that take the logs 200 miles out to sea, mill them, dump everything in the ocean,and then bring them back to CA and sell them back their lumber.
That's a beautiful slab of redwood and will be very nice as a bar top!!! I don't know enough about finishes to recommend one over another, but would stick with stuff rated for boats out in the ocean. If it's good enough for salt water, it should be able to handle spilled red wine.
Then the spotted owl hoax started and logging of redwood trees pretty much stopped. It took years before the so called environmentalist would admit that the reason they where seeing fewer spotted owls in the old growth redwood forests was because the spotted owls moved to the new growth areas where they could hunt easier and do better. Even worse for those causing all the logging companies to shut down was that the Southern Spotted Owl was identical in every way to the so called endangered Spotted Owl.
Now there are almost no logging mills left in Northern CA and the loggers sell the logs to Chinese ships that take the logs 200 miles out to sea, mill them, dump everything in the ocean,and then bring them back to CA and sell them back their lumber.
That's a beautiful slab of redwood and will be very nice as a bar top!!! I don't know enough about finishes to recommend one over another, but would stick with stuff rated for boats out in the ocean. If it's good enough for salt water, it should be able to handle spilled red wine.
I think I am pretty much done tearing things out. Tomorrow we start putting it all back together. Exterior doors were ordered today. Windows should be here on the 15th. I worked last night getting a couple of wall sections stripped. Lower two perlins are stripped out on two of the main wall sections. All of the metal from 11'6" where the outside porch meets the building will be removed and replaced with a nicer siding and some stonework. We plan to stick frame the new wall sections. After framing is done we will cut/remove the metal from 11'6" down then sheet with osb.
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Our tenants also moved out a few days ago. Here a few pics of our old home located on the upper level of the back half of the building. This is the area we will be using for a bridal suite with overnight stay options. 2,100 sq/ft 4 bedroom home. One of the bedrooms will be converted into a makeup room. Need to do some painting, tile work, and get rid of carpet.
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2017-12-05_05-23-36Our tenants also moved out a few days ago. Here a few pics of our old home located on the upper level of the back half of the building. This is the area we will be using for a bridal suite with overnight stay options. 2,100 sq/ft 4 bedroom home. One of the bedrooms will be converted into a makeup room. Need to do some painting, tile work, and get rid of carpet.
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