Timberwolf TW-3 Splitter

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ddivinia

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I am going all over the place looking at splitters. The TW-3 looks like one heck of a unit.

Does anybody have a good dealer for timerwolf?

I just prices a Timberwolf TW-3 - PTO powered splitter.

$1995
4 way wedge - $395
Working table - $295
Shipping - $385
Total - $3070

Comments?

Man, that is a lot of dough for a splitter. The one I was going to go with at TSC is $1300...

Does anybody have a TW-3?

D.
 
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Sorry, don't know a good dealer for Timberwolf.

There are several threads on this forum pertaining to splitters, and a lot of the discussion revolves around PTO powered vs. engine powered.

Myself, I have a Troybilt 27 ton splitter with a Honda engine (6.5hp I believe). New cost was $1100 from Lowes with 20% off coupon last year.

I didn't have a tractor at the time, but now that I do, I would still get the gas engine powered splitter. Why? I can pull the tractor up to the splitter with the FEL hanging out at splitter level. Round goes onto the splitter, gets split, and then into the loader. Saves me from bending down twice.

On top of that, my tractor would easily burn through 1 gallon of diesel per hour. That little splitter has a tiny little gas tank (less than a quart) and takes at least an hour to burn through that.

I have split rounds up to 40" in diameter with this, and never had a problem. These rounds had to have weighed more than 200 lbs each, and the only way I could split them was with the splitter in the vertical mode, because they were way too heavy to lift.

Something to think about....

Regards,
-Steve
 
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I have looked at TWs, and they are nice ! Grease fitting everywhere. Looks like they would last a long time. When it came time to buy, purchased a YardMachines 27ton with a 5.5 honda @ the Depot. It was approximately $1200 at the time. I only split for myself, not professionally, so i couldn't justify the money for a TW. I've run about 6 seasons (6-7 cord/season) of wood across my splitter, and it has run flawlessly. I split some big wood too ! I see alot of guys who sell firewood running the TWs, so that should tell you something. They are made up in Vermont........ just take a ride up and pick it up. Its beautiful country up this way !!
 
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I bought a 30 ton unit with a 9 hp robin engine from harbor freight tools for 1300.00. I think it is pretty heavy duty and works great. Go to their web site and check it out.
 
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mopar3500 said:
I bought a 30 ton unit with a 9 hp robin engine from harbor freight tools for 1300.00. I think it is pretty heavy duty and works great. Go to their web site and check it out.

I'll go check it out.

Thanks,
D.
 
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ddivinia, I'm reading your splitter posts with great interest - I'm making the same decision as you are! I have a TSC 10% off coupon burning a hole in my pocket right now but just can't bring myself to buy one of thiers. Based on Big E's Troy-Bilt post above, I found this at Amazon:
Amazon.com: Troy-Bilt 240cc Honda OHC Logsplitter #24AD597D766: Home Improvement
which is highly regarded by the users. The two downsides are $199 freight and you have to assemble it yourself. The upsides are no sales tax, $1400 and the same unit at Lowe's is $2099! Actually, by assembling it yourself you get to put it together correctly.
What do you think? [sorry, just trying to spread the confusion]
 
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HappyCPE said:
ddivinia, I'm reading your splitter posts with great interest - I'm making the same decision as you are! I have a TSC 10% off coupon burning a hole in my pocket right now but just can't bring myself to buy one of thiers. Based on Big E's Troy-Bilt post above, I found this at Amazon:
Amazon.com: Troy-Bilt 240cc Honda OHC Logsplitter #24AD597D766: Home Improvement
which is highly regarded by the users. The two downsides are $199 freight and you have to assemble it yourself. The upsides are no sales tax, $1400 and the same unit at Lowe's is $2099! Actually, by assembling it yourself you get to put it together correctly.
What do you think? [sorry, just trying to spread the confusion]

With the coupon I am at $1300 at tractor supply - no tax. I had them order me one. It should be here by TH. I hope it shows up. If not, I will consider this troy unit also. I could go ahead and pay for the unit to lock in the price, but I hate paying for stuff before it shows.

D.
 
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That deal on the Troy bilt LS33 looks really good. That appears better than the 27 ton unit for $1300 at TSC. I just might have to do an Amazon order.

D.
 
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You guys might be surprised at how much a 22 ton unit will split. I started by looking at 27ton and higher splitters, but read a lot of reviews on this site. I was shocked at how many used the 22 ton models and split dozens of cords per year with them. I downsized my thoughts and bought a 22 ton with a B&S engine at TSC. I couldn't be happier. It starts easily and has never stalled out. If it cannot split the wood, it actually cuts through, knots and all.
One more thing... since it is a 22 ton unit, the cylinder is 4" and it has a faster cycle time than any of the heavier units. I used to split with an old time beast of a splitter. I figured my splitting time would get longer since I am using the little splitter. I was way off, and can now split in less than half the time. AND, these newer splitters are taller, so I have no back ache at the end of the day.
Be careful shen buying the Honda engines. They seem to be raising the price for that name, even if it has a cheapo 'made in China' honda model on it.
I love this Huskee splitter and I am glad I saved my money. (not really saved it, but spent it on a snow plow for my FEL). ;)
 
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ddivinia said:
I am going all over the place looking at splitters. The TW-3 looks like one heck of a unit.

I just prices a Timberwolf TW-3 - PTO powered splitter.

$1995


D.

Looking at your profile it would appear that you have several tractors that have more than enough hydraulic output to run off tractor remotes as opposed to spending the extra $$ on the PTO mounted pump..??... but I'm sure that you must have your reasons to go that way......

? Paul
 
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Diesel-ME said:
Looking at your profile it would appear that you have several tractors that have more than enough hydraulic output to run off tractor remotes as opposed to spending the extra $$ on the PTO mounted pump..??... but I'm sure that you must have your reasons to go that way......

? Paul

I was really leaning towards a tractor model. They dont seem to be the bargain they should be. That Troybilt is looking pretty good.

D.
 
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ddivinia said:
I was really leaning towards a tractor model. They dont seem to be the bargain they should be. That Troybilt is looking pretty good.

D.

What I meant to suggest is that the Timberwolf that you are looking at INCLUDES a PTO-mounted hydraulic pump and related plumbing and reservoir.

You could save $500-$800 by looking at 3PH-mounted splitters (if that's what you want) that run directly off the tractor's hydraulics. I am exceedingly happy with my American CLS brand splitter - see: this site and scroll down to the Vertical and Horizontal Tractor Mounted Splitters. There are other similarly set up brands. You just need a rear remote hydraulic to plug it in to.

On my tractor I had the dealer install a detent type valve, which allows me to lock the hydraulic flow on for the splitter. But you could use a non-detent valve and just bungee it open. Then you use the included valve on the splitter to run the splitter.

So the point is, that unless you have a tractor with insufficient hydraulic flow you don't need a splitter with on-board hydraulic reservoir and a seperate PTO-mounted pump. My rig cost about $1300 (36" model with option backing plate to handle a 4-way splitter).

Hope that helps, Paul
 
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Diesel-ME said:
Looking at your profile it would appear that you have several tractors that have more than enough hydraulic output to run off tractor remotes as opposed to spending the extra $$ on the PTO mounted pump..??... but I'm sure that you must have your reasons to go that way......

? Paul

Personally I have a hard time saving +/- $700 on a splitter by running a +/- $25,000 tractor, not to mention the fuel consumption and additional plumbing on the tractor.

The 22 tonner at TSC, at $999 less the coupon, looks OK except it is just a few inches too low for my back. I also have to split a lot of elm and what would I do with a machine that wasn't able to do it?
 
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Ford850 said:
You guys might be surprised at how much a 22 ton unit will split. I started by looking at 27ton and higher splitters, but read a lot of reviews on this site. I was shocked at how many used the 22 ton models and split dozens of cords per year with them. I downsized my thoughts and bought a 22 ton with a B&S engine at TSC. I couldn't be happier. It starts easily and has never stalled out. If it cannot split the wood, it actually cuts through, knots and all.
One more thing... since it is a 22 ton unit, the cylinder is 4" and it has a faster cycle time than any of the heavier units. I used to split with an old time beast of a splitter. I figured my splitting time would get longer since I am using the little splitter. I was way off, and can now split in less than half the time. AND, these newer splitters are taller, so I have no back ache at the end of the day.
Be careful shen buying the Honda engines. They seem to be raising the price for that name, even if it has a cheapo 'made in China' honda model on it.
I love this Huskee splitter and I am glad I saved my money. (not really saved it, but spent it on a snow plow for my FEL). ;)


I totally agree with 850. I purchased the TSC 22 ton model a few years ago and it is a great machine. Very rarely will it fail to go thru a knotted and twisted piece of wood. I broke the first one splitting some sycamore, it was really twisted and really wasn't worth splitting, so I took it back and they replaced it with another brand new one. I can email you how it broke and what I did to remedy the problem on the new one. That was several years ago and the machine has performed great ever since. I think the price then was around $975, I'm sure it is a little more now. Personally, I wouldn't have one with a Honda engine, unless you are good at tearing down the carb every now and then.
I have split a lot of wood since then and would recommend this machine. Like 850 said, save a little money and buy another new toy. A new chain saw would be a nice touch! Good luck if you have not made the purchase yet.
Huey
 
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ddivinia said:
I am going all over the place looking at splitters. The TW-3 looks like one heck of a unit.

Does anybody have a good dealer for timerwolf?

I just prices a Timberwolf TW-3 - PTO powered splitter.

$1995
4 way wedge - $395
Working table - $295
Shipping - $385
Total - $3070

Comments?

Man, that is a lot of dough for a splitter. The one I was going to go with at TSC is $1300...

Does anybody have a TW-3?

D.

Call their 800 number for dealers near you...
Timberwolf Wood Processing Equipment
 
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I checked the link back to Amazon and recalled I had done a review there. Here's a cut n paste from it:

I looked for a log splitter for about 4 months before deciding on this one, both new and used. I checked online, craigslist, and about 10 local stores -- recommend doing the same to find the best deal. One thing I discovered is that you need to take good care of your splitter, or you'll end up replacing the engine and/or the hydraulics. Pay attention to the service notes! Lots of splitters available on craigslist that hadn't been taken care of! For a very small investment, you can buy an hour meter and maintenance reminder from Sears -- do so, and you'll get better service from your splitter.

OK, on to the review. This is actually made by MTD for Troybilt, so it is very similar to the models sold at Home Depot and Ace Hardware. However, it has the 5.5HP Honda engine, which has a much better service record than the Briggs and Stratton. B&S also overrates their HP, so the 5.5HP Honda engine is more powerful than the 6.5HP B&S. The 27 ton hydraulic ram is much better made than the 25 ton version available for the same price at HD.

The splitter comes pre-assembled where I purchased it, including the hydraulic fluid and motor oil, so all I had to do was drive the truck over with a 2" ball, hook it up, and drive off. The unit is fairly heavy duty for homeowner use, but balanced good enough so that it is easy enough to roll around by hand. Got it home, filled it up with gas, and it started right up (2nd pull). Note: Very easy pull start -- I'm right handed and can pull start it with my left hand. Wife is small and had no problems starting it either. Nice, quiet engine -- quieter than my lawn mower.

The ram tilts for horizontal and vertical use: originally I thought I would mainly use it horizontally, but I used it to split some 36" diameter chunks, and there was no way I was going to lift those on to the splitter in the horizontal position, so vertical was a lifesaver in that respect.

The two stage pump is nice -- it rarely kicks in, but definitely does so when you hit a big knot, etc. Nothing seems to slow down the ram -- it just keeps going, and you barely hear the engine struggle, even on the big pieces.

I've split a couple of cords of wood with it, been through the first oil change, and must say that I'm very happy with the investment.

Good: More than enough power for average home owner, well built, easy start, quiet, easy to move around, horizontal and vertical operation, up to 25" long logs. Replacement parts easily available from MTD.

Bad: Fenders are plastic and won't stand up to much abuse. Hydraulic hoses don't have a protective metal sheathing. Ram cycle time is 19 seconds vs. 13 seconds on bigger units. Doesn't come standard with light kit (for towing). Only 1.1 qt gas tank, but then again, it runs for 2 hours on that. Oil change is a pain -- plug positioned so that it drains onto the base and gets everywhere. Change the oil outside!

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Troy-Bilt 160cc Honda OHC Logsplitter #24BF572B766
 
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Diesel-ME said:
What I meant to suggest is that the Timberwolf that you are looking at INCLUDES a PTO-mounted hydraulic pump and related plumbing and reservoir.

You could save $500-$800 by looking at 3PH-mounted splitters (if that's what you want) that run directly off the tractor's hydraulics. I am exceedingly happy with my American CLS brand splitter - see: this site and scroll down to the Vertical and Horizontal Tractor Mounted Splitters. There are other similarly set up brands. You just need a rear remote hydraulic to plug it in to.

On my tractor I had the dealer install a detent type valve, which allows me to lock the hydraulic flow on for the splitter. But you could use a non-detent valve and just bungee it open. Then you use the included valve on the splitter to run the splitter.

So the point is, that unless you have a tractor with insufficient hydraulic flow you don't need a splitter with on-board hydraulic reservoir and a seperate PTO-mounted pump. My rig cost about $1300 (36" model with option backing plate to handle a 4-way splitter).

Hope that helps, Paul

What RPM do you usually run your tractor at to make the splitter work right?

D.
 
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ddivinia said:
What RPM do you usually run your tractor at to make the splitter work right?

D.

1500-1800 as I recall (have not used it since fall). But it will split at low idle. The higher the RPM=the faster cycle time. I can split for hours and use very little fuel. Plus the engine noise is 10 feet away!! Plus I'd much rather breath in sweet diesel than gasoline all day :D

~paul
 
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Taking advantage of our brief respite from Winter, I ended up splitting some wood yesterday. Ran the tractor at 1400-1500 RPM.

~Paul
 

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Does anyone know if the 30 ton Harbor Freight splitter really has only a 1.5" diameter rod on it's 5" cylinder? That is what the online pdf file says. That is an unusually small rod for a 5" cylinder.
 
 

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