TLB for home construction and 8 acres

   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #21  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Nah....It's not a big deal for the mighty BT1000. Breakout force is rated at just under 6000 lbs. This is not a hoe attached to the rear of a CUT with a subframe design. The stabilizers are massive.

That rock is big, but the hoe pulled it right out of the hole. Now the loader was none too pleased, but she performed as directed (barely). I had to skid the rock into place, mainly due to its size and the fact that I couldn't get it into the bucket far enough under the pivot point. That's the problem moving big rocks with a standard bucket. Forks are necessary for rock lifting. )</font>

This Sunday I made it up to our 17 Acres of land in Northfield NH to check and adjust on the hydraulic pressure of the main pump. I set it at 2750-2800 psig. That BT1000 does a good job now. The factory setting was at 2650 or 100 Psig low from what it should have been.

I played around a bit digging a short trench, tore out a large old stump next to my neighbor's driveway, and spread a 18 ton load of gravel for them.
The boom on the BT1000 is as strong or stronger than it needs to be for the weight of the tractor. I have to be careful, as it moves the tractor around with ease.
The BT1000 boom cylinder will lifte the L39 off the ground.

Dipperstick seems to be about right, boom is stronger, but the dipper force is fine.

I think I will adjust the bucket curl for a bit more force. Be nice to have more force for tearing roots.

The BT1000 BH is about as small of a hoe I would consider useful. I could not imagine getting much out of a smaller one. There are more 2 ton rocks up here than I care to handle. Kubota did a good job with this hoe.

I ended up paying $5,700 to have the stumps pulled on 4.5 acres. The work was way to much to handle with the L39, considering the size of the trees and the area. I figured working the heck out of the L39, I could do 1500 to 2000 Sq Ft/day. So I would have been at this for 2 months straight, putting too many hard hours on the L39 and myself. Still it kills me to pay that for 2 crawler excvators for less than 2 days work. They just wind rowed the stumps, I still have to bury them.

The weak loader I have been complainimg about is better since I adjusted the main pump, but I still find the curl force limp wristed. The L39 is light in the front, and does not backdrag well or have strong reverse or forward curl. Lift and break-out are nothing toi write home about either, but better than the curl force. The L39 needs the L48 engine.

Once I get the loader working like Skypups, that grapple is looking like a real good idea.

There is more adjustment left in the loader relief valve. I will tweak it again. As I have the main pump set, there is only so much the reief valve on the spool will do. I will not overdo the main pump as this is both dangerous and damaging to the pump and will load up the engine excessively.

All in all, my dream machine would be more something like a JCB 2C, except with more HP and bigger floatation tires.

Actually a +70 HP, Cab with air/heat, +10,000 lb machine that is no more than 5% or so physically larger than the L39 and just as manuverable, i.e. no bigger or smaller than the JD110 or L48, with 3 Pt and PTO like the L39 would be great.

Wonder if there is such a beast under $50K?

I am begining to think I would have been better off getting a used industrial BH, working the raw land, then selling for a L39 Machine or more Ag style tractor.

I wonder what a 8-10 ton used dozer cost?
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #22  
You can pick up a decent used industrial hoe for less then the cost of a new compact like the L39. At $30K-40K, it will be in good shape. Frankly, my old L48 was tin foil compared to an industrial. I knew that, but thought I could also use the L48 for other chores like mowing, my Harley rake etc. For tough work, an industrial is perhaps the better choice either rented, purchased or have someone do it. Save the compacts for lighter stuff. As proud as we sometimes get of our compacts, they really are light duty.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #23  
When I was thinking of getting our L-39TLB, a good friend who has all kinds of heavy equipment said he'd sell me his JD 310 TLB for $30,000, or less than the cost of a new L-39. I operated it for two days on my property ripping out some huge stumps and rocks. It worked great, although it was a dirty industrial machine, the hoses were in good shape and the controls worked good. However it was way too BIG to maneuver into tight places and I was constantly destroying things accidentally whenever I tried to move around on the property. I went for the L-39 because I found the industrial grade TLB too heavy and too large for what I was planning on doing over the next ten to fifteen years.

My wife just about had a heart attack when she heard me say I was thinking of purchasing the JD for our property, amost like when she found out I was also talking about getting myself a CAT or Komatsu track dozer...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif It turned out allot easier just to sub those big jobs out than to do them myself.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #24  
<font color="blue">It turned out allot easier just to sub those big jobs out than to do them myself.
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As hard as that is to do sometimes with my "I can do it myself" mentality, I find there are times that it just is the wiser choice. When it came time to sell my L48, it was in such great shape, I got close to my purchase price. Had I done some of the more difficult stuff, it might have been a bit more "used" looking.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #25  
I was all set to get the L-48 until I heard about the new L-39, I waited specifically for it to be released and got one of the first ones available. I really do like the GST transmission over the HST for this kind of work, that was the main reason I did not get the L-48. The L-39 is a real powerhouse for its diminuitive size.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #26  
Wait until you try a Bobcat T180 (or smaller). It is everything wrapped into one with industrial engineering and dozer ability. It is unbelievably stable on slopes. It would surely make me rethink the whole TLB thing. They are nothing short of amazing. I have yet to see much of anything trench as fast as one that includes the ride on's available from Vermer and Ditchwitch. The attachments are superb. Now, if they could get the cost down. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres
  • Thread Starter
#27  
Thanks for all your suggestions. I was hoping to spend about $20 k on the TLB, but you all have made me realize that I would need a bigger and more expensive machine to do what I need (septic system, driveway, trenching, landscaping, etc). I think I will rent one and see how it goes, and then maybe hire an excavator to do some of the projects.

Thanks again!

Eric Morse
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #28  
It is small and I like it /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I took the hoe off yesterday to use my boxscraper and it was funny looking without the growth sticking off the back. It's a little guy and it wasn't designed to do the work of yellow equipment. It's just a nice small and extremely capable "utility tractor". If it was any bigger I couldn't justify keeping it after my construction is done in a couple of years. She is great for general ditch, road maintenace (summer and winter) and various little project over the coming years. I couldn't be happier.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #29  
Yeah, they are cool. I'd love to have one of those too.

You can't drive a T180 on the road! My L39 has more than a few road miles and the L39 can excavate like nobody's business. It would dig circles around any Bobcat equipt with some kind of backhoe type of attachment. It can excavate or trench and then load within seconds. It can take hydraulic or PTO attachments. Hard to beat for a single machine kind of guy like myself.
 
   / TLB for home construction and 8 acres #30  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I would need a bigger and more expensive machine to do what I need (septic system, driveway, trenching, landscaping, etc). )</font>

Aside from major stump removal an L39 would easily handle what you are talking about. You have to think about your time as well. If you have the time, you could easily pay for the machine with the savings. Hey, free L39.....that's what I did /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif And I work at my own pace, when I want for as long as I want without worrying about rentals. Sounds like you'll need a machine to maintain that property when you're done anyway....hey that's more money saved long term. That L39 is starting to look like a really good deal. You're not going to want to sell the tractor when you're done, so forget that idea /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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