TN75D $$

[MikeF]

I am looking to buy a larger machine for hay making and I am leaning towards the TN75D over the M6800. I like Kubota and am currently using a L4310, but it just is not heavy enough for safely pulling a bailer & wagon. The price I got for the TN75D w/4x4,std 16x16, & loader valve (no loader) is $27,950. I have owned several Massey's & Kubota's and they were all good machines. But I really like the features on the TN. Also is anyone using A TN for haying and how is it!

thanks Mike

 

[k9roccy]

I just had a new TN75D at my place for a 5 day demo. Here are a couple of items you might check out. It had 40 hrs when delievered.

A few points I noticed:

Both rear axle seals were leaking grease. You can spot this easily by looking for the residue on the inside bottom rear rim. Easy to see on the white rims. Look for Hyd oil high on the rear below the outlets. Check for this.

The left loader arm contacts the top of the exhaust stack when you attempt to raise the loader all the way. The loader cycle time was was good. In fact you have to watch how you move the loader control on the bucket or you slam it against the stops at the end of bucket travel. I got used to the valve quickly and with a soft touch the bucket was no problem. Hydraulic limitations are no problem for this model.

This machine has a vibration when the 4WD is engaged. Click it off and the vibration goes away. The ag tires may have magnified this. I use R4 tires and they seem to provide a smoother ride and this vibration may not be as noticeable.

Transmission and clutch were smooth. On the roll shifts were excellent - 16X16 power shuttle. I took it out on the road and it did well in the high ranges. The shuttle was perfect. My wife transitioned to this transmission easily. She was used to a operating a hydro and no experience with a clutch. Steering was positive and did not wander. Its a good deal when your wife thinks a tractor is a must have. I get to trade for new almost every 3 years.

Maybe the coldest cab air I have ever seen. It was 90+ here and the air was great, even at idle. Cab layout was nice. All controls are easily within reach. Good outside lighting front and rear. Although this machine had only a small light fixture inside the cab. Not enough inside light for me. The top of the cab is plastic....Didn't leak, I hit it with the sprinkler for a 1/2 an hour.

The smv sign was mounted high right behind the rear window so you could not open the window all the way. Mount this in another place.

The seat could use alittle more padding. When entering the left side of the cab you notice a handhold on the right would be nice. You can grab the cup holder or the door rail on the inside of the cab.

I did not run anything on the pto which required alot of hp. I square bale so my hp requirements are not huge. My alfalfa is not ready to cut yet or I would have ran the mo-co with it. Don't know how much hp reduction will occur when running the airconditioner. If your hp requirement is at the limit, I would investigate this....don't use the manufacturer's stats.

The only item I was really concerned about was the rear axle seals.

The machine performed very well in all the tests I put it through. I am testing a deere machine next.

Just a few items for you to consider. Get your dealer to drop a demo machine for a test. By the way, this machine is headed to the Farm Progress show if you want to look at it.

Good Luck.

 

[bgott]

The rear axle bearings are greased through a zerk on the outside of the rear axle hub. If you shoot too much grease in the bearings it comes out the seals. It's not a problem, it's the way it was designed. That way you can push the water out when you run through high water. The first time I greased the rear bearings on my TN 65 I had someone slowly drive the tractor forward while I steadily pumped grease into the bearings. I had a ton of grease around the seal and dripping on the wheels. I'm talking about a fat ring of grease an inch or two in diameter. Three or four squirts while rolling slowly is all you need.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I agree with everything said here and as far as oil below the remotes, that happens when you plug and unplug hydraulic hoses. It is common as there is always a small bit of oil in between the hose tips and the valve that has to go somewhere when the hose is disconnected. So unless it was leaking from somewhere else do not worry about it.

 

[MikeF]

Ok, I agree with whats been said & apriciate the info. How about the price I was quoted and the use that I am intending ?

thanks Mike

 

[Robert_in_NY]

The price seems in line but I have not priced a 75 in a few months to know for sure. I do not use my 65 for baling but there are a few guys here that use their TN's for baling and love them. I also have a friend that uses his TN 75 2wd for baling and has never had a problem with it. They are very nice machines and if you have any doubts you should ask the dealer to allow you to demo one in the fields for a few days to make sure it will work. Cowboydoc just had a problem with a new JD 5020 series he bought for haying. The cab sucked too much power and he was having to downshift for hills so JD took it back and gave him a deal on a larger tractor. Give it a spin in the field doing what you think is the most demanding job there and see how she holds up and let us know. Hope that helps.

 

[farmerpsv]

Hey all
Gee whiz wally, this thread has me wonderin. I had pretty much decided on a TN65, and now this question about haying and hp. I have an old JD 2020 55hp, 47pto. I have a heavy duty tiller that really overheats the engine. I can get away with about 1/2 an acre before it starts threatening to fry. The NH dealer seems to think the 65 will handle it okay, tiller is rated at 50hp low end (it's a 60" Maschio if anyone is familiar with Italian tillers). I still havn't decided on 4wd either, I've never had it , is it worth the extra 5k? should i be looking at a TN75 instead? sorry...maybe i should have started a new thread.
thanks
paul

 

[cowboydoc]

If NH is like Deere I would sure look twice. That was my other problem on the 5420 was it got right up to the red haying. On the smaller tractors the pto hp is rated WITHOUT the cab. If you get a 65 with a cab you won't be much better than your 55hp tractor. If you're going 2wd I would definitely go with a TN 75. My dealer thought I would be ok with the 5420 too but it wasn't. I would get the tractor you want to buy and run it with tiller and baler and make sure it's going to do the job. I know deere was really good about trading my 5420 back but not sure if NH would do the same.

 

[farmerpsv]

Well yeah, Cowboydoc,
I am doing a double take here. My tiller is a mondo heavy duty, and I paid a ton for it, so I'm loath to give it up, plus it has 4 speeds, which is kind of cool when incorporating ammendments. anyway, it's rated at 50-60 hp, and it definately overheats my JD which has a pto of 47. i've read somewhere on this site that the TN65 actually produces more hp than it specs out at, but i got burned when i bought the tiller by the expert that said my tractor would handle it, they didn't have the scruples of your JD dealer, so I'm wondering if i need to step up to the TN70, it's kind of a borderline question. everyones pretty much convinced me to go with 4wd, the TN70 tacks on anther 2100. sigh
paul

 

[Phred]

I run a 4x5 round baler with a TN70D.
I think this is the minimum. The 70 hp does a good job even when the air is running and its 100 oF outside.
I also have run this on slopes without any problems.

I bought a 70 since it was on the lot and therefore a good deal.

If I had to do it again I might buy the 75 but nothing smaller than the 70.
The biggest advantage of the 75 is more hydraulic flow over all the other TN models. This is important for PHD and other hydraulic loads.

Fred