TN95 4wd only

jimg · Jul 11, 2006

Im wondering why all other models in the TN line are offered in 2 and 4wd exc the 95 which is 4wd only. Are they planning to offer a 2wd model eventually? If not whats the message...move to a 'higher trim' line for 2wd? Why would they do that? Im trying to think about this logically but maybe theres no good answer? Anyone?

Doc_Bob · Jul 11, 2006

If I had a TN 95, I would not care. I would just slip the 4WD lever into 2 wd and smile.
Bob

jimg · Jul 11, 2006

Why would you spend $ for an option that wouldn't be useful for your operation?

Doc_Bob · Jul 11, 2006

jimg said:
Why would you spend $ for an option that wouldn't be useful for your operation?

I wouldn't.
Bob

Robert_in_NY · Jul 12, 2006

You can always go down a step or up a step to get the 2wd. I have not priced a TN 95 but I imagine it is quite close to the TL series. Check it out.

As for standard FWA on some tractors, you will find a lot of tractors only come in FWA now. I know the TG and MX is FWA only as very few people want a 2wd tractor anymore. Small utilities are the same way, most people buy them with FWA so why invest in a heavier front axle for the TN 95 when it needs the FWA to make use of its extra power (unless you only need it for the PTO in which case you just jump to the TL which is a much nicer haying rig)

jimg · Jul 12, 2006

Thanx. I was only looking at the top end of the TN line b/c it gives just enough PTO hp so going down one mdl wouldnt work. I understand about the need for 4wd but not in all cases. It would be nice if 2wd was offered. However, your suggestion of going to the TL is probably best as transmission choices are much better. I just dont want to spend more than is necessary....

Robert_in_NY · Jul 12, 2006

Have you priced out a TN95A compared to the TL90A. If you do please post the price you are given as I am curious. The TL line didn't use to be that much more then the top of the TN line and this was before they came out with the 4 cylinder TN95A.

Personally, if given the two lines and your main job is going to be haying I would get the TL-A over the TN-A without even thinking twice. The only question would be if I wanted to spend the extra for the TS-A over the TL-A. The TL series has been and still is a great haying tractor. I would have bought one instead of my TN but back then I wasn't even thinking about haying. Since then I have had the luxury to try the TL-A out on my baler and there is no question it was a ton nicer then my TN65. Even with the AC running there were no problems with power and the extra weight handled the baler that much nicer.

jimg · Jul 12, 2006

Yes, ive priced the 95 (35k w/o a cab). Im not sure how much give there was in that price.

Yes, the main event will be hay. I dont plan on any ground contact equipment exc a no till drill. I havent yet looked into what thatll take for hp though. I think not much...thoug I could be wrong.

Thanx for the infos about TN vs TL!

>>Even with the AC running there were no problems with power and the extra
>>weight handled the baler that much nicer.
This is particularly good info...I was thinking Id have to go 10 hp over what I really needed in a cab tractor.

Woodbeef · Jul 12, 2006

Remember that with this global design of today's tractors not ever user is figured into the equation. Outside of certain parts of Asia and North America not many 2wd ag-tractors are sold. Like Robert said some models are not even made in 2wd any longer.

Fastcars63 · Jul 12, 2006

As of the present time New Holland will not offer the TN95 in 2wd. When pricing against a TL-A there is not a lot of difference in price. When you take into account how much more you get in a TL-A than the TN-A its a wash out in price difference. The flat platform design is worth the difference alone

jimg · Jul 13, 2006

My local NH dealer stocks the TN, TB and TM and seems not interested in the TL/TS. Thats good to know about the TN/TS mdl overlap.

Soundguy · Jul 13, 2006

jimg said:
Thanx. I was only looking at the top end of the TN line b/c it gives just enough PTO hp so going down one mdl wouldnt work. I understand about the need for 4wd but not in all cases. It would be nice if 2wd was offered. However, your suggestion of going to the TL is probably best as transmission choices are much better. I just dont want to spend more than is necessary....

Maybee you need a slightly used tractor. I just looked up the TN 95 specs and from what i saw it was 80 pto hp, and 95 eng hp. ( not sure if that is right ).

Now.. in keeping in that range, and 2wd.. have you looked at a NH 7610s They can be had as 2wd, and pto hp is 90.

I have one and absolutely love it. Pulls a 15' batwing mower thru tall brush like no tomorrow. Mine's a 2002 model and 2wd. You can get then used for a decent price.

If you can find a new-ish one.. it's a great tractor. Most of the local governments in the tri-county area where I live used/use 7610s as road mowing tractors.

Soundguy

jimg · Jul 13, 2006

soundguy: Yes, Im certainly going to buy used. Yes, Ive looked (online) at the 7xx0 series along w/ others (TW locally). Id like to get as new a tractor as possible though. All of the interesting used tractors around here are pretty nearly worn out. I did find a TL90 2wd via the NH used locator for < 20K w/ rather low hrs which also has the 24x24 transmission. Oddly it was less expensive than most of the 7xx0s I found. Im surprised your 7610 was made in 2002...thats very new. I thought that mdl was discontinued somewhat earlier. What transmission does it have? I really like the hi/lo clutchless shift feature and thats got to make haying a lot more pleasant.

I suppose the reason I even started this thread was that I figured the 95 would be most cost effective than a similarly powered upscale mdl. In other words my 'cheap' side was flaring up. Thanx for all infos to the contrary. Here its not always possible to have a good selection of used machines to view (or even new for that matter). Thanx again...

Soundguy · Jul 13, 2006

AFAIK.. 2002 was the last year made. I got mine with 680 hrs on it at a price of 18,xxx.00 The prev owner used it in an orchard and kept hitting limbs due to the tractors size. It dented the left fender quite a bit and put a few dents in the sun shade... all easilly straightened. Prev. owner traded for something smaller that wouldn't hit trees.. like a tc 45/48.. etc.

I felt I got a great deal and lots of tractor.. adn the prev owner dinged it up enough to make it affordable.

It has the 8x2 gear tranny with independent pto.

Soundguy

Robert_in_NY · Jul 14, 2006

Chris, the 7610s is a great tractor but it was only available with a 8x2 tranny which is not a great tranny for haying. The more forward gears the better.

The 7610s didn't come with dual power did it?

Soundguy · Jul 14, 2006

The 7610s didn't come with dual power.. but I believe the 7610II did.

ford/nh's time tested 8x2 is a good bullet proof tranny. Might not be great for hay.. but it's great to mow in. I mow in 5th with a 15' mower...No lack of power.

Soundguy

jimg · Jul 14, 2006

Yes, it was the II that had the dual power transmission. This is the one Im interested in. The TWxx I looked at several wks ago had the same set up.

ETA: or maybe it was the 7710II that had the dual power transmission...too many mdl numbers to remember

Robert_in_NY · Jul 14, 2006

The 7610 and 7710 were basically the same tractor. The main difference was that the 7610 was a low profile version of the 7710.

Chris, you are right, the tranny is a great tranny but it just lacks the extra gears for when you want to go a certain speed for a certain crop condition. For a chore tractor it is great though.

scg · Jul 15, 2006

Just priced out a TN95DA Deluxe cab 40k tran loader ready about $40,000

Woodbeef · Jul 18, 2006

Dual-Power has been around since 1981 over here. The Blue Power Special of the x600 series had DP, Factory installed MFD, on the 5600 up models as options.