Too many tiller options

[Atypical_decorum]

Hey all. I'm in the middle of purchasing a smaller tractor and need a tiller for it. The tractor is a New Holland TN75S with 16 speed ranges and MFWD. The tires are set to their widest at about 96" and I'd like to see if there's something you know I'd be able to run or if I MUST set my tires more narrow.

I'd love to get a reverse tine tiller. From my research it looks like I might have to get something smaller, then have a welder offset it to cover 1 tire track and just work like that.

What do you think?

 

[jeff9366]

How many acres do you need to cultivate?

Will you grow a market crop or is this for food plots on hunting land?

Is your land flat, sloped or mixed? How much of each category?

Describe your soil.

 

[Atypical_decorum]

How many acres do you need to cultivate? The main spot is about 1 acre on a hill Slope - about 15 to 18 degrees. The second area is about 1/2 acre on a slip about 20 degrees.

Will you grow a market crop or is this for food plots on hunting land? This is for my families food. Tomatoes, broccoli, cucumbers, herbs, beans, etc etc.

Is your land flat, sloped or mixed? How much of each category? It's nearly all sloped. At the steepest you can't walk and the flatest is about 10 degrees. There's about 7 acres of flat area in the hollar, but it's lined by 75ft trees and there's no sun but 3hrs a day. I'm planning on getting new wheels made for the tractor for some wide and shorter tires to lower my CG and add room for ballast.

Describe your soil. It's mostly clay and scattered flat rocks I'll need to take out as I find them. The soil will have to be amended. There's spots of good soil but not much. I'm adding perlite and vermiculite amongst other things. My last garden was about half the size and we didn't need to shop for much during the year and supplied our neighbors too. All year eating is the goal of this garden.

 

[jeff9366]

New Holland TN75​

1999 - 2003 TN Series Utility tractor

Production
Manufacturer:	New Holland
Type:	Utility tractor
Factory:	Jesi, Italy

TN75S:

Super Steer

New Holland TN75 Weight

SuperSteer ROPS Shipping:

5370 lbs 2435 kg

New Holland TN75 Power

Engine (gross):	75 hp 55.9 kW
Engine (net):	72 hp 53.7 kW
PTO (claimed):	62 hp 46.2 kW
PTO (tested):	63.9 hp 47.7 kW

 

[sweettractors]

Hey all. I'm in the middle of purchasing a smaller tractor and need a tiller for it. The tractor is a New Holland TN75S with 16 speed ranges and MFWD. The tires are set to their widest at about 96" and I'd like to see if there's something you know I'd be able to run or if I MUST set my tires more narrow.

I'd love to get a reverse tine tiller. From my research it looks like I might have to get something smaller, then have a welder offset it to cover 1 tire track and just work like that.

What do you think?

I would consider a little smaller tiller like in the link below and offset the tiller by adjusting the sway chains on your tractor 3 point to the right or left.

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[5030]

I can vouch for Ken Sweet, know him personally and he's a stand up guy as well.

 

[jeff9366]

For 1-1/2 acres of sloped land, I would be concerned with potential rain erosion. Has erosion been a factor in the past?

Consider some form of Conservation Plow:

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

www.tractorbynet.com

With extensions, available in 96" width:

Land Pride

www.landpride.com

8' + 10' widths:

Model 10, 12 & 14 Perfecta Field Cultivator - Unverferth Farm Equipment

The Unverferth Perfecta provides the perfect solution to your seedbed tillage needs. Its design allows maximum residue flow and maximum tillage action and seedbed preparation.

www.umequip.com

YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tractor+perfecta

Up to 96" Width:

Buckeye Tractor Online Catalog Page 11-02 Toolbar Cultivators

www.buctraco.com

 

[Atypical_decorum]

For 1-1/2 acres of sloped land, I would be concerned with potential rain erosion. Has erosion been a factor in the past?

Consider some form of Conservation Plow:

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

www.tractorbynet.com

With extensions available in 96" width:

Land Pride

www.landpride.com

There's been no erosion. But I can also put swales in if needed.

 

[Atypical_decorum]

For 1-1/2 acres of sloped land, I would be concerned with potential rain erosion. Has erosion been a factor in the past?

Consider some form of Conservation Plow:

Dirt Dog - All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator REVIEW + PICTURES

Dirt Dog All Purpose Plow / Field Cultivator Dirt Dog Model APP 66-5 Total Width 66", Working Width 62", Five Tines, Weight 284 Pounds, Paid $835.00 (2010) Field Cultivator: A Three Point Hitch mounted, secondary tillage implement, used to perform operations such as soil aeration...

www.tractorbynet.com

With extensions available in 96" width:

Land Pride

www.landpride.com

8' + 10' widths:

Model 10, 12 & 14 Perfecta Field Cultivator - Unverferth Farm Equipment

The Unverferth Perfecta provides the perfect solution to your seedbed tillage needs. Its design allows maximum residue flow and maximum tillage action and seedbed preparation.

www.umequip.com

96" Width:

Buckeye Tractor Online Catalog Page 11-02 Toolbar Cultivators

www.buctraco.com

How would thaat do in fluffing the soil for my additives?

 

[jeff9366]

A Field Cultivator without a rear basket does not fluff soil at all. Example: Dirt Dog APP. Fissures allow rain to carry nutrients down, with decreasing amounts carried down at over 6" depth.

A Field Cultivator with a rear basket, like the Perfecta, will fluff your soil a little. Look at output shown during various videos.

Conservation plow output is heavy enough that neither wind nor rain will carry away nutrients nor seeds. Good on moderate slopes.

These implements are for SECONDARY TILLAGE.

 

[jeff9366]

Four (4) foot to Forty (40) foot width Tiller Options:

Heavy Duty Farm Tillers - Northwest Tillers

Heavy Duty Farm Tillers for the toughest tilling jobs. Commercial farm tillers for orchards, vineyard, bed-forming, strip-tilling, vegetables, and much more.

nwtiller.com

 

[Atypical_decorum]

A Field Cultivator without a rear basket does not fluff soil at all. Example: Dirt Dog APP. Fissures allow rain to carry nutrients down, with decreasing amounts carried down at over 6" depth.

A Field Cultivator with a rear basket, like the Perfecta, will fluff your soil a little. Look at output shown during various videos.

Conservation plow output is heavy enough that neither wind nor rain will carry away nutrients nor seeds. Good on moderate slopes.

Several of the videos looked like it was tilled with the amount of fluffiness shown. I'm guessing the perfecta wouldnt accomplish that in my clay based soil?

I'm open to any option really, as long as I can get my additives in it make hills.

 

[jyoutz]

How would thaat do in fluffing the soil for my additives?

I have and use a 72” 9 shank version of that plow. It deep penetrates and aerates the soil but doesn’t make a fluffy planting bed. I follow up with a tiller after the deep soil plowing. I have a clay loam soil type.

 

[jeff9366]

Describe your soil.
It's mostly clay and scattered flat rocks.
I'm guessing the perfecta wouldnt accomplish that in my clay based soil?

A spring-protected All Purpose Plow like the Dirt Dog brand or very, very similar Bush Hog brand APP will penetrate and fissure optimally moist soil 10" - 12" deep anywhere a Roto-tiller will mix the same optimally moist soil 5" deep. However, these relatively light, spring-protected conservation plows only come in max 85" width, which would be a no more than a moderate pull for your TN75S. (An "L" shape implement frame has only so much torsion resistance.)

While designed for SECONDARY tillage, I have pulled the Dirt Dog APP through long established Bahia pasture grass with 7" to 9" roots when the soil below was optimally moist. The purpose was deep aeration of the pasture. Heavy sod growing on rock free sandy-loam in Florida.


Did you read the long Dirt Dog review LINK in Post #7?



Unprotected S-tine Field Cultivators are generally much less robust than APPs with spring protection.
However, Unverferth, maker of the Perfecta, is a full-on implement producer for the Big Ag market. The Perfecta has a strong box frame. The Perfecta has shanks (Models 10-12-14) available in three degrees of robustness. Others do not. I suggest you call Unverferth Customer Service and discuss your soil directly with them. Discuss what width Perfecta your TN75S can pull with each of three tines of varying robustness.

Unverferth manufactures Perfectas for 600-horsepower tractors.

Did you watch all the YouTube LINKS to Perfecta videos?

Your next heavier option is a spring-protected Chisel Plow. Buckeye Tractor produces four Chisel Plow variants rated for 75-horsepower tractors.

Buckeye Tractor Online Catalog Page 18-01 Chisel Plows

www.buctraco.com

 

[jyoutz]

Describe your soil.
It's mostly clay and scattered flat rocks.
I'm guessing the perfecta wouldnt accomplish that in my clay based soil?

A spring-protected All Purpose Plow like the Dirt Dog brand or very, very similar Bush Hog brand APP will penetrate and fissure soil anywhere a Roto-tiller will churn the same soil. However, these relatively light, spring-protected conservation plows only come in 85" width, max, which would be a moderate pull for your TN75S.

Did you read the Dirt Dog review LINK in Post #7?



The unprotected S-tine Field Cultivators are generally much less robust than APPs with spring protection.
However, Unverferth, maker of the Perfecta, is a full-on implement producer for the Big Ag market. The Perfecta has shanks available in three degrees of robustness. Others do not. I suggest you call Unverferth Customer Service and discuss your soil directly with them. Discuss what width Perfecta your TN75S can pull with each of three tines of varying robustness.

Your next heavier option is a heavy, spring-protected Chisel Plow, but your TN75S does not have enough weight/power to pull any but the smallest Chisel Plow through clay based soil with rocks. Buckeye Tractor produces four Chisel Plow variants rated for 75-horsepower tractors.
Details in the green tab labeled Price List.

Buckeye Tractor Online Catalog Page 18-01 Chisel Plows

www.buctraco.com

The Fred Cain 8’ unit would work well with the OP’s tractor (sold by everything implements). I have the Fred Cain plow and pull the 7’ 9 shank model easily at maximum depth with my 60hp tractor in my heavy soil.

 

[jeff9366]

Fred Cain, Dirt Dog and Bush Hog APPs are identical except for paint colors.

Everything Attachments no longer markets the Fred Cain proprietary brand. Sad.

 

[jeff9366]

Several of the videos looked like it was tilled with the amount of fluffiness shown.

Really?

 

[Atypical_decorum]

Really?

The ones on the perfecta page itself. Yes.

 

[hlyautey]

Hey all. I'm in the middle of purchasing a smaller tractor and need a tiller for it. The tractor is a New Holland TN75S with 16 speed ranges and MFWD. The tires are set to their widest at about 96" and I'd like to see if there's something you know I'd be able to run or if I MUST set my tires more narrow.

I'd love to get a reverse tine tiller. From my research it looks like I might have to get something smaller, then have a welder offset it to cover 1 tire track and just work like that.

What do you think?

I would not get a reverse rotation tiller. It throws the rocks toward the tractor. I have a 72" Bush Hog tiller that I really like. Forward rotation.

 

[Lstlk2hi]

Hey all. I'm in the middle of purchasing a smaller tractor and need a tiller for it. The tractor is a New Holland TN75S with 16 speed ranges and MFWD. The tires are set to their widest at about 96" and I'd like to see if there's something you know I'd be able to run or if I MUST set my tires more narrow.

I'd love to get a reverse tine tiller. From my research it looks like I might have to get something smaller, then have a welder offset it to cover 1 tire track and just work like that.

What do you think?

90" to 99" Tractor Rotary Tillers - Rototillers www.durattach.com