Toyota slammed for a change?

[_RaT_]

I was checking out the Toyota HiLux 3.0L diesel or Tacoma as it is called here, on the Australia website. I'm not sure if we need to do some sort of exchange thing here but the asking price for the same truck but with a diesel in Australia was $51,850. That was a double cab automatic. Seems a touch high. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Makes me wonder what a loaf of bread cost over there, $30 or $40 is my guess. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif $51,850

 

[gsxr1100]

like 39K USA

 

[Jstpssng]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Actually, Toyota did market small diesel trucks in the US during the early to mid '80s. I )</font>

Ford also had a diesel Ranger in that same time frame. Both the Ranger and toyota delivered about 30 MPG. I'd consider something like the Iveco V-6 turbo in a half-ton, if we could get someone to build it.

One problem is with emissions. The trucking industry supposedly is dragging their heels as far as cleaner fuels. However, it'd be easy to have an "auto grade" fuel, much as we had leaded and unleaded gas pumps back in the '70's.

With Hybrids being the latest "fad", I don't see why they don't build a "Diesel/electric" auto.. they've been doing it with locomotives for years.

 

[kevincook]

Isn't the Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel supposed to be mandated in the entire country by 2007? If this is the case then all the emissions problems will gone since all the new diesels meet the standards with the ULSD fuel I beleive. I know you can't buy a diesel car in CA, NY and MA for this reason. How many other states prohibit the sale of diesel cars right now?

Kevin

 

[HGM]

Yes to your first question.

As for the other states. There are other "green states" in the country tht have strict regulations as California does. I'm not sure which ones they are though.

 

[kevincook]

I'm not which sure which state have the same regulations as CA but I know that NY and MA are two of them. There may be others also.

I'm actually starting to see the ULSD fuel in some stations in NY already. It may be in others but not listed as that.

Kevin

 

[bandit67]

Don't know if all of you are aware of this, but one big problem with the Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel fuel is that the process employed to remove the sulfur, also removes 85% of the lubricity that is present in the current diesel fuels sold.

It would be "assumed" that the fuel suppliers will then have to put a lubricity additive back into the fuel, but no one seems to know if that will happen due to the expense, and the fuel companies apparently haven't addressed the issue publicly, at least not up until a few months back.

So, until we know for sure that the lubricity additives are put back into the fuels, we may need to add our own at every tankful if we want our diesel engines to last. That's what I'll be doing until I see a sign up at the pumps telling me about the wonderful lubricity additive that the oil company has added to my ULSD fuel.

 

[sneaky_pete]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You've hinted at something that I've wondered about for some time, Randy, whether there's some sort of collusion between the auto and oil industries to keep oil consumption high.)</font>

Note to self: buy some Reynolds Aluminum stock, as the price will surely go up with the increasing use of tin foil hats. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[HGM]

Bandit,
I'm not sure about the 85% figure you mention, but yes it will reduce lubricity.

I'm not the least bit worried though. They have been running ULSD in Europe, California, parts of Canada, as well as some other areas I'm not readily aware of. It has been used for a while now. California, to keep it related to us, has been using it for a year or two now and have not reported any adverse issues.

There will obviously be lubricity additives added to the fuel. It cannot be avoided. Think about it, would you market a product that none of your consumers could use? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Dont think so...... Adding your own has been and will always be a good idea for diesel owners though. Diesel fuel is not as stable as you would think, it is VERRY suceptible to contamination, most additives help with this too.....

ULSD will help open many doors for future diesels in North America. Bring it on........ /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[milkman]

LMAO /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif