Tractor Distribution

[VT_Kioti]

Has Kioti solved the distribution problems with their CK 25 & 30 models yet?
I have ordered a CK 30 and there seems to be a question of how long it will take for the dealer to get one. There is also a question of obtaining a spacer for the R4 type tires to keep them from rubbing on the fenders. Any information on that?

I have to admit I am not known for my patience and the wait is hard. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Al

 

[psuedofarmer]

you're talking to the king of impatience - so believe me, i feel your pain.

i ordered a DK55c 1 month ago - expect delivery tomorrow. i can't speak specifically about the model you're looking for, but here's what i learned after ordering mine:

- the move to the new facility caused some problems. i expect that with the move came the transition to a new ordering system; merging an old computer system with a new one is bound to have problems that are unexpected.
- shipping seems to be getting back to normal; not sure if this is a result of the move, but there seemed to be some confusion about what company(s) kioti was using for shipping. this is likely not entirely kioti's fault, it's likely a combination of high fuel prices and the lack of truckers coupled with the chaos of the move to the new facility.
- supply and demand. the demand for kioti is HUGE right now, i have confidence that they're ramping up production to keep up, but patience is the only way to get what you want.

i personally picked the kioti over the 'buta because of a # of factors, not the least of which was price and value. unfortunately the rest of the US figured out how great these machines are..

best of luck with that machine - if you're looking in the VT area, i swear by my dealer.. ken valenti in keene, nh

http://www.kenstractortruck.com

good luck!

pf

 

[tractorhill]

They do have plenty of CK25 and Ck30 in stock now
i was at the warehoude today

 

[VT_Kioti]

Thanks guys. I feel a little better about the wait. I had a Kubota B7500 which is a great tractor but we found a little to small for the work it is doing. We started looking at upsizing to a 30HP unit. After looking at K's, NH's, and JD, we happened to pass a Kioti dealer. We stopped "just to look". Then on to look "at the real tractors" some more, BUT we kept coming back to the Kioti lot. Then the dealer came out with the key and it was all over. The CK30 has so many standards that are options on the others. The operators area is very well thought out. And after using a tractor for 3 years I was aware of what I needed. This is it. I will post picts when the big day arrives.
Thanks again.
Al /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[JayC]

Congratulations! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif What attachments did you get with it? Look forward to the pics! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[VT_Kioti]

WE purchased only a Kioti box blade with the tractor. Awaiting it's arrival at home are a Woods back blade, a Land Pride RFM, a KK Landscape rake, a Woods Rotary Mower, and a Woods 7500 BH. The BH will have to wait until Woods releases it's sub-frame mount for the CK30. I e-mailed them and they said it should be released in the 3Q. We are then going to change the backhoe over to use the tractor hydraulics instead of the PTO due to condensation getting into the fluid tank over the course of a year.

Al

 

[VT_Kioti]

Well she's here. And to prove it here's the picture. That was not to bad a wait. Shes at the dealers at this point.
Now I have to wait until Wed for delivery. And there is also the case of the wrong size bucket. I ordered a 54" and it was shipped with a 60". I will have to wait until Monday to see how that works out. I move a lot of dirt and I belive that the smaller bucket would be best for this kind of work.
Will post more picts when the big day arrives.

 

[KiotiJohn]

It's just my opinion, but I see nothing about using the 60" bucket that will be detrimental to your dirt work. The CK30 is strong enough to handle the extra contact area, and you'll move more dirt with the larger bucket. My CK20 handles the 54" just fine, so a 60" on your 30 should be too. John

 

[VT_Kioti]

I guess I was thinking more on the lines of break out force. Like the difference in backhoe buckets for removing stumps. We have a line of willows to remove and the subframe for the backhoe will not be available until the end of the 3rd quarter of this year (they estimate).

 

[cptdave]

Nice machine! I wonder if the step would fit my 20. Anyone have any thoughts? Cptdave

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I guess I was thinking more on the lines of break out force. Like the difference in backhoe buckets for removing stumps. )</font>
Yeah, that could make some difference, but I doubt it would be substantial. You will want to get a toothbar for it to help you uproot small trees. The backhoe, of course, would be much preferred for removing the willows, but the loader will do some digging. Just be careful and try not to go too fast or too deep. Buckets will bend!

 

[VT_Kioti]

Well the big day arrive on July 21. The CK30 HST was delivered in the morning. Dean Moore of Moore's Corners Inc. took the time to remove the loader and show me where it differed from the B7500.
I have very little time in the seat due to work requirments but I have noticed a big differance in what the CK30 can do compared to the B7500. That extra HP really counts. I noticed it is diffaclut to put into and out of 4WD but that may loosen up as it breaks in. Other that that no problems. A really great tractor.
I am sending a couple of picts of the tractor. The first is the truck making the delivery.

 

[VT_Kioti]

Here it is parked in the land it will maintain. The back fields are Bush Hogged and the front is mowed with a 60" Land Pride rear discharge finsh mower.

 

[KiotiJohn]

Wow that's beautiful. My dealer said that big folding ROPS was so heavy, it took four of them to hold it up and attach it.
That's a really nice piece of property you have there. I appreciate the pictures you're posting, thanks. John

 

[VT_Kioti]

<font color="blue"> "My dealer said that big folding ROPS was so heavy, it took four of them to hold it up and attach it." </font>

<font color="black"> Boy I hope not. My wife won't want to hear that. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Thanks for the comments John.

I like the idea of it just folding down flat instead of all the way down. It just gets in the way when it's hanging down into the PTO area. And it incourges you to keep it up where it can protect the operator. </font>

In this picture where the trees are in the meadow is a brook. The land in front of the brook is low. This is where I am going to place a swale to alow run off. Thats why the CK30 came with a Box Blade. We are waiting for a rear remote hydraulic kit for the BB before begining this job.

Al

 

[depratt_equip]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My dealer said that big folding ROPS was so heavy, it took four of them to hold it up and attach it. )</font>

Boy is it ever heavy!! I don't know how heavy it is to fold down, but it sure was fun to install. It took about 3 of us here, second one I did I was by myself and used the fork truck and a strap /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ...... It sure is made heavy duty though. The ROPS on the new CK25 & 30 are actually made in Korea, all the other ones are made here in the States.

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Boy I hope not. My wife won't want to hear that. )</font>
Al, that's installation weight of the whole ROPS, not the fold down, which is necessarily heavy, but not as heavy as the whole ROPS. I think your wife will be happy to know that it's heavy duty enough to protect people and tractor. John

 

[VT_Kioti]

Thanks John
I tried it out to day and it's not bad to lower and put back up. Bit of a reach pushing it up though. I'll bet it was a bear installing the complete thing.
Great tractor. Doesn't even raise a sweat running the rotary mower through very tall grass and weeds uphill. That was pushing a 21hp tractor to it's limit. An other thing I noticed is I use 4wd much less with this CK30. It just doesn't need it.

<font color="orange"> Now that I know I can drop the ROPS I won't have to talk my wife into doing it for me. Scared me for a minute though. It's getting harder to keep coming up with a story she'll buy to get her to raise and lower the ROPS </font> /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Great tractor. Doesn't even raise a sweat running the rotary mower through very tall grass and weeds uphill. )</font>
One thing I was amazed at on the CK25 I tried out was how quiet that engine is. My CK20 is louder. The power was there and was very smooth. One thing about changing 4WD to 2WD. It's sometimes necessary to move the tractor a little, push in the clutch and then change it. I've noticed this on several models, and it's true on mine. Sometimes it's just not lined up in the axle I guess and you have to move a little. Same with the rear differential lock, I sometimes have to move a little while pushing it before it engages. I've had that happen on several old models of tractors I've used in the past. Don't change from 2WD to 4WD while moving down the road, as damage can be done, and you may even through yourself off! John

 

[VT_Kioti]

John Has it gotten any easier to engage and disengage the 4wd as the tractor borke in? It is not a really big deal but you really have want to use 4wd to engage it.

Al