Bob_Skurka
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I sat on a CK20, looked at a CK30, not been near a CK25. Have not worked any of the 3. Nor have I worked any JD equipment, but I've been to the dealership to try to buy a few of them (bad dealership with inattentive sales people). I do agree with you that nothing beats experience on a particular machine . . . would you like me to retract all the good things I've said about the CK20 -like calling it is probably the best in its class- and the CK30 in various threads in not only the Kioti forum but in others as well?
The reason I argued the L3130 was superior (in another thread) had a lot to do with the greater capacity of the 723 loader and much of that particular discussion was loader centered. Again, the context of that thread directly -and erroneously- compared machines that were a mis-match, and I pointed that out. Don (shopping tractors) and I debated it and both (now I am speaking for Don here) came to a basic agreement that the CK30 outclasses the B7800/B2910 but is outclassed by the L3130. We agreed to disagree (again speaking for Don here) on the CK30 versus the TC33. And, I believe I came running to argue that the Kubota 402 loader is a weakling and belongs a completely different class becuase it is so anemic (and I own a 402 on a B2910) so I was really doing a nice job of being objective and using actual experience while comparing to the specs of a superior piece of equipment I have actually never used.
By the way, I agree with you that the Kioti brand is not always a bargain, in many areas it is priced as high as the Big 3 (or they are priced as low as Kioti).
And I think the reason I presumed you'd use the tractor for at least some mowing was also in your original post were you said: <font color="red"> 2 acres of finish field (not a swamp or a pasture but not quite a lawn either) that is brush cut even though I sometimes take a 4ft finish mower to it. </font>
But all that said, I think this thread has probably run its useful course so I will shut my big mouth now.
The reason I argued the L3130 was superior (in another thread) had a lot to do with the greater capacity of the 723 loader and much of that particular discussion was loader centered. Again, the context of that thread directly -and erroneously- compared machines that were a mis-match, and I pointed that out. Don (shopping tractors) and I debated it and both (now I am speaking for Don here) came to a basic agreement that the CK30 outclasses the B7800/B2910 but is outclassed by the L3130. We agreed to disagree (again speaking for Don here) on the CK30 versus the TC33. And, I believe I came running to argue that the Kubota 402 loader is a weakling and belongs a completely different class becuase it is so anemic (and I own a 402 on a B2910) so I was really doing a nice job of being objective and using actual experience while comparing to the specs of a superior piece of equipment I have actually never used.
By the way, I agree with you that the Kioti brand is not always a bargain, in many areas it is priced as high as the Big 3 (or they are priced as low as Kioti).
And I think the reason I presumed you'd use the tractor for at least some mowing was also in your original post were you said: <font color="red"> 2 acres of finish field (not a swamp or a pasture but not quite a lawn either) that is brush cut even though I sometimes take a 4ft finish mower to it. </font>
But all that said, I think this thread has probably run its useful course so I will shut my big mouth now.
