Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650

   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #41  
Your going to really like that exhaust brake, it works great!

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   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #42  
Thanks for sharing the additional photo, I really like the way it looks with that bed on it, but I am a little biased for the Dodges.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #43  
I think what you're calling electric over hydraulic is just the hydra-boost is an electric motor pump vs the old type that uses the power steering pump, or the even older type that had a vaccum assist from a vaccum pump on the alternator.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #44  
Nice truck!

Our F550 had little trouble going down with 24K pushing it. Rockies, Northern Ontario, Northern Quebec... no problem. The underpinnings on your Dodge would be very similar.

I bet!!!.. my 2011 F550 weighs about 19350 lbs.... its horrible to get going, but once going... the absence of an exhaust brake REALLY sucks.. We have to replace the service brakes about every 20-25K miles. In speaking with several ford engineers about the new truck, they had concerns about the durability of the torque converter and exhaust valves.. hence no exhaust brake option on the C&C trucks.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #45  
I think what you're calling electric over hydraulic is just the hydra-boost is an electric motor pump vs the old type that uses the power steering pump, or the even older type that had a vaccum assist from a vaccum pump on the alternator.

I am sure this is it. My Ford F-350 has the same setup. Nothing new there, its been around for quite a few years.

Chris
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #46  
I run my Ford F350 with Farm tags, and I can put the weight I want, and I rate them for 50,000 pounds, cause when I pull up on the scales my gross weight runs about 48,500Lbs on average. They always call me into the scale house, cause most F350's are usually rated for like 18,000Lbs, and they think I am overweight, but once they see my registration they tell me to have a nice day. I run the 7.3 Powerstrokes, and they pull that much weight just fine.
Forgot one thing, I always have the plate reinforced to hold that much weight, cause it will bend a regular goose-neck plate.
 
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I run my Ford F350 with Farm tags, and I can put the weight I want, and I rate them for 50,000 pounds, cause when I pull up on the scales my gross weight runs about 48,500Lbs on average. They always call me into the scale house, cause most F350's are usually rated for like 18,000Lbs, and they think I am overweight, but once they see my registration they tell me to have a nice day. I run the 7.3 Powerstrokes, and they pull that much weight just fine. Forgot one thing, I always have the plate reinforced to hold that much weight, cause it will bend a regular goose-neck plate.

Here farmers are not exempt from the weight law. If a vehicle or combination of vehicles is transporting exclusively livestock, the weight allowance for any single axle or group of axles is increased by 15% as long as the total gross weight does not exceed the maximum allowed for that vehicle. To be specific weight limits depend on factors such as the number of axles, axle spacing, class of highway and type of product carried. All wheels of a vehicle imposing weight upon the highway, extending across the full width of the vehicle and load, are weighed. A maximum of 20,000 lbs. is allowed on a single axle; 34,000 lbs. on a tandem axle; and 13,000 lbs. on the steering axle of a truck tractor-trailer combination. As farmer you also required to have a valid medical card.

The issue I would have with that much load is not pulling but stopping.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #48  
My '12 F-450 pickup is registered as "greater than 1 ton", and I don't have farm tags on it. It's rated from the factory with a 33,000# GVWR. My trailers have farm tags on them and I believe that allows up to 54,000# GVWR. No way I would try to haul that much with a pickup, even if it is legal. This truck handles a large load very well but like has been said, it's not so much getting it going as stopping a load.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650
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My '12 F-450 pickup is registered as "greater than 1 ton", and I don't have farm tags on it. It's rated from the factory with a 33,000# GVWR. My trailers have farm tags on them and I believe that allows up to 54,000# GVWR. No way I would try to haul that much with a pickup, even if it is legal. This truck handles a large load very well but like has been said, it's not so much getting it going as stopping a load.

I nearly purchased the F450 and I believe you are confusing GVWR & GCWR (gross combined rating). I may be wrong but I believe the GVWR of the F450 pickup is 13,300 lbs and the GCWR 33,000 lbs. This is one reason I went with the Cab & Chassis 4500 as I could get a higher GVWR at 16,000 lbs.
 
   / Trailer capacity on F450,F550,F650 #50  
You're right, I meant to say 33000# GCWR. The '08-'10 F-450 pickup had a 14,500# GVWR compared to the 13300# of the current F-450 pickup. The GCWR of 33,000#'s is the same for all F-450 pickups. I seriously considered a Chassis-cab F-450/550 and having a hauler bed installed but really didn't want the de-rated engine of 300/650 compared to the 400/800 of the pickups. The GVWR of the chassis-cabs is higher, I think you can go up to 19,000 on the F-550 but the trailer towing capacity is no higher than the pickups.
 

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