Trailer or FEL?

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#41  
<font color="blue"> OK, this is too many posts. </font>

1savoy,

THanks for the pointers to the different manufacturers...I really appreciate it!

And don't worry about the number of posts...this thread will turn up when someone searches in the future, and your info will help someone in the future too.

Appreciate your help, along with everyone else's or course!

Thanks to all!!!!
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #42  
So I have to ask, are you getting the super duty stainless steel diamond plate trailer with LED submersible lights, dually tires with chrome hubcaps and power ramps?

Because if you did, Cowboydoc would come along, tell you he got it cheaper and it was painted green & yellow too. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #43  
<font color="blue"> "I would not worry about being hassled with the out of state plate on a trailer." </font>

Plates for a trailer? What a novel idea. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #44  
JayC,

Thanks. I will try that next time. I am new to this if you could not tell. Thanks again.

Russ
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #45  
Henro,

I just finished trailer shopping and have one now.

I'll share my top recommendations.

1. Wherever you get it, make sure you get a title- PERIOD. Being also in PA, don't accept one without or you will have titling hassles and have to apply for a reconstructed title (4-8 weeks, pictures, etc).

2. Make sure it is legal in PA for that length. Extra lights at front corners, breakaway, brakes on all axles (I was told each was required, but definitely a good idea).

3. Tongue mounted, TAPERED, locking toolbox. If not tapered, turning clearance will be compromised. TSC for around $50 if I recall. One key in towing vehicle, one at home in the garage, just in case /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

4. This is a biggie. I went to TSC and bought two side crank trailer jacks on pivots (you know, pull the spring loaded pin and flip them up) and welded one on each side between the rear wheel and fold up ramps. We flip these down and crank them a few cranks to prevent trailer tilt and excessive wear on your trailer ball lock from loading and unloading. I should take some pictures and post them. Maybe tomorrow.

5. Buy a combination lock for the hitch. I bought one at Lowes with the right size "U" for the holes in the hitch. This will keep your trailer attached (read: not stolen when parked somewhere), and also lock it in place when the trailer is detached. This prevents anyone from backing into it and driving away with it- the ball won't seat /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Of course, someone can just cut it with bolt cutters, but that's a little obvious in the Walmart parking lot /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

6. I bought one of the Lowe's $0.96 brightly colored spring loaded snaps for connecting the breakaway cable to the vehicle hitch. Not sure what they are called, but looks like a light version of what rock climbers use for attaching onto their ropes. Smaller on one end with about a 1.5-2" springloaded "hinge" Somebody help me out here with the name /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

7. We found a trailer with SPLIT rear loading gates. Split is much easier to lift. Each has full box channel bracing and wire mesh on it.

8. Make sure you get REMOVABLE pins for the rear gates/loading ramps. If your tralier is x feet long and you want to hall > x feet items, you can remove one or both easily and put it on the trailer.

9. Replace all snap pins with the spring loaded snap ring pins like on your 3ph. Again, not sure of the name- it's late /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

10. Between the split rear gates is a large pin that connects both when stowed in the upright position. This vibrates a lot. We cut about 2" of old rubber hose and put on this pin to act as a spacer to tighten this connection and cushion the vibration as well.

11. "Over the wheel" tie downs for hauling tractors. Wouldn't be without them. Also works great for hauling motors. Set the motor on an old tire on an old pallet and put the tie down over the motor. Holds it down and wraps around at the same time. I think around $20- $30 ea.

12. In your toolbox: Gloves, yes that is plural. Wheel chocks, you know why /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif, extra tie downs, bungees, ratcheting straps, twine or rope

And one other general tip. When hooking your safety chains to your hitch, wrap them together to take up slack so they don't drag on the road, and always hook them UP through the slots so the open part of the "s" is facing upwards. They will NEVER bounce out this way, as the weight of the chain will always hold them in. This is opposite of standard "j" or "c" hooks on chains, which are always connected with open end down.

Oh, and don't forget to put the rear stabilizer jacks back up before pulling away /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif (It was a good test for the welds, though /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

Good luck, hope this gives you some things to think about. This is a long post, but gotta take care of our own up here in Penn's Woods /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

-JC
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #46  
Regarding putting jacks at the rear corners of your trailer.......

One thing I was worried about was having the MMM clear the rear deck as I drove on. I don't have jacks/stands at the rear, so when I drive on, the rear of the trailer squats at the Bota starts up the ramp. It lowers the rear of the trailer and increases the clearance of my MMM as I drive up. Also keeps the BB from digging into the asphalt!

Yes, the rear of my F150 goes up a few inches, but not off the ground or anything. Do I care, No. It's not that much and it sure aids loading......... Don't think it will wear anything prematurely either.

I do however, make sure the hitch is latched BEFORE I load/unload. If it came loose, now that would be a shocker.

My two cents: Save your money on extra jack stands for the rear........ My trailer came with a skid shoe jack stand in front. I added a roller jack stand to facilitate moving it. I left the skid shoe one on, so when I park it on a driveway, I use it and the trailer stays put.
Ron
 
/ Trailer or FEL?
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#47  
Diskdoctr,

Thanks for all the pointers! Big help for a novice future trailer owner like me. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

<font color="blue"> "Over the wheel" tie downs for hauling tractors. Wouldn't be without them. </font>

Could you post a pic of these too (along with the rear jacks) when you get around to it? For some reason I can't picture what you are referring to...

Thanks!
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #48  
Henro and all,

Here is a picture of the tire tie downs.

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #49  
Here is a picture of the rear trailer jack.

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #50  
Another trailer jack pic.

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #51  
A pic showing how the jack tilts.

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #52  
Here is the trailer tongue box I mentioned. BTW, forgot to mention: tarp. Always have one with you /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Note the lock on the ball hitch and the snap clip I tried to describe. Also the insert with the rubber bushing on the pin between the ramps.

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #53  
This is a picture of the removable ramp hinge pin. It makes it easy to remove one or both of the ramps to haul longer items.

I like having a "closed" back of the trailer and the side rails. Keeps things on trailer nicely, reducing the amount and complexity of tying down items.

And "no" I did not haul those blocks like they are without tying down. They are just leftovers from the wall and I haven't decided where to put them yet /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hope this helps give you some ideas. Sometimes I really think things through too much, so it would be good if someone else can benefit from it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-JC
 

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/ Trailer or FEL? #54  
Very nice setup. I rented a Bobcat 325 mini excavator a couple of years ago, and when he drove onto the back of the trailer the rear of the truck came right up off the ground. The ramps sunk in a bit (They had bars like bigger tagalongs though).
 
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/ Trailer or FEL? #56  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here is a picture of the tire tie downs. )</font>
Many times my imagination is lacking, and this is one. How in the world are you supposed to drive down the road with that over your tire, holding down a load on the trailer. I'm sure there's an easy answer, something I just am not imagining right! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif John
 
/ Trailer or FEL?
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#57  
I had seen them before too...but it never occured to me that they could be used like that!

I guess I'm with John on this one...maybe because we both own orange? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #58  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How in the world are you supposed to drive down the road with that over your tire, holding down a load on the trailer. )</font>

That's a poor farmer's trailer brake. Sort of works like an anchor- throw over the ends of the straps and hope it catches /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I put it on the tire and pulled the straps around to better show it instead of just a clump of straps and trying to explain it, but apparently you all don't appreciate all the trouble I went through to make things easy /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

-JC
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #59  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( That's a poor farmer's trailer brake. Sort of works like an anchor- throw over the ends of the straps and hope it catches )</font>

Is that D.O.T. approved? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
/ Trailer or FEL? #60  
- For your reciever hitch, get a locking cross-pin for the hitch. I had an acquiantance who almost lost a horse trailer when the hairpin retainer clip came out.

- Loose the S-loops for the safety chains. Get the loops with with safety clips

- Always cross the safety chains, so they cradle the tongue if it comes loose.

- Get lots of chain and binders from the get go. At least four binders...

- Get a spare key for the tractor. That way, when you leave the key in it, and it blows out going down the road, you can still use the tractor.

- Have rope hooks put on. It is handy when you haul lumber, ect. It is easier to tie knots and hitches to hooks than d-rings.

- When you get a lock for the trailer, get one with a big loop, so you can loop the trailer wire through it too. Helps keep it from dragging.

- #6 is a "carbiner"

- Lots of rope, bungees is good idea; lots of stuff you can tie off...

- Get extra bulbs and lenses; especially taillights

- Make sure the license plate is mounted someplace sturdy. If it is hanging, it will get hit or snagged

--- Get a spare tire! and spare tire mount! Most trialers do not come with one.

- Get a lug wrench to fit the trailer... Nothing like having a spare, but no good wrench...

- Always keep at least something loaded; lumber, extra tires, whatever. If someone asks to borrow it, tell them it has stuff loaded.
 

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