Trailer, towing, weight questions.

[Ooklaa]

I am curious to find out from others if you use your sub compact to tow any open/dump trailers. I see most trucks have a towing capacity. So im looking to find out what people have used or are doing now.

Id like to buy a open trailer big enough to tow my massey, but also looking to use my massey to tow the trailer around for firewood etc.

I have a 17cu ft utility dump cart i got from home depot awhile ago that i use on my small JD125 to tow around my firewood. Hooked it up it my Massey and obviosuly it can tow alot more.

 

[oosik]

When I had my Ford 1700 4WD I used my tandem axle trailer to haul firewood on the property. I never used this trailer on the highway - just around my property, so speed was never a concern. I was able to get 2 3/4 full cords of split green P. pine on the trailer and tow it back to the wood shed. I would estimate that the trailer fully loaded would easily weigh 3X the weight of the little Ford. The only problems I ever had was at times the trailer would lift the rear tires of the tractor off the ground - when going over swales. A touch on the throttle would cause the front tires to pull and bring everything back on the ground.

I'm very sure that this situation exceeded anything the manufacturer ever anticipated - but since I never went much over 2 mph and was always on my property.................... I learned to stack more wood at the front and this solved the "lifting" situation.

As an example - my owners manual(Kubota M6040) lists my current tractor weight at 4675 lbs - - the implement table states that the max trailer weight that should be towed is 9900 lbs. Or roughly 2 to 1. Check your owners manual for their recommendations.

 

[plowhog]

I want to do this exact same thing. I have a single axle dump trailer and I believe the GWR is about 5,000 lbs. It can haul about a cord of firewood, maybe a little more. I want the tractor to pull this trailer when it is full of wood, dirt, debris, gravel, or whatever. I envision pulling the trailer behind my truck to get a load of gravel, then using the tractor to position the trailer around the property where the truck might not go.

I have ordered a 3-point trailer hitch but have not received it yet. I will certainly try it out when I get it. (The hitch was recommended in another recent thread in this same forum.) I'll provide some feedback once I get the practical experience with the two.

 

[Ooklaa]

I want to do this exact same thing. I have a single axle dump trailer and I believe the GWR is about 5,000 lbs. It can haul about a cord of firewood, maybe a little more. I want the tractor to pull this trailer when it is full of wood, dirt, debris, gravel, or whatever. I envision pulling the trailer behind my truck to get a load of gravel, then using the tractor to position the trailer around the property where the truck might not go.

I have ordered a 3-point trailer hitch but have not received it yet. I will certainly try it out when I get it. (The hitch was recommended in another recent thread in this same forum.) I'll provide some feedback once I get the practical experience with the two.

Yes please do, videos of the bad boy in action would be awesome! Ill post some up of my utility cart.

 

[AxleHub]

I am curious to find out from others if you use your sub compact to tow any open/dump trailers. I see most trucks have a towing capacity. So im looking to find out what people have used or are doing now.

Id like to buy a open trailer big enough to tow my massey, but also looking to use my massey to tow the trailer around for firewood etc.

I have a 17cu ft utility dump cart i got from home depot awhile ago that i use on my small JD125 to tow around my firewood. Hooked it up it my Massey and obviosuly it can tow alot more.

I have an open 6 x 10 trailer that I had specially built to be very strong but to be lightweight enough for me to move it around by myself on flat surfaces. It is strong enough to handle my scut but not long enough for it. While my scut could move it around just fine empty . . If I filled it . . My scut would not be able to control it on uphill or downhill movement. I'd have the power . . But not the tractor weight or wheelbase. I bought a Polar Industries cart to haul heavy loads with my scut. It can handle 1500 pounds of payload plus the 225 pound cart.

 

[Deere Dude]

You might run into a problem in the winter with snow because of traction loss pulling a big trailer with your tractor. In the summer you can pull a long enough trailer any day of the week but may be difficult to get into tighter spaces with a long one. It depends on your layout of your property.

The worse thing that can happen if you get a big trailer to tow your tractor is you may need a smaller one for tight spaces, or you may not be able to fill the bigger trailer all the way up.

 

[Ooklaa]

Trying to uplaod a image and im heaving a problem. I had my 17cu dump cart filled to the top and on the fell i had my oayne forks with 700 pounds of desk i orderd. Had to be real careful with loader or the *** was ready to come up .

 

[plowhog]

I got the hitch attachment.

In case you are worried, trust me that the packaging that this item is in will survive just fine in the event of an atomic missile attack. Gawd, it took me over a half an hour to get the thing out of the packaging!!!

Have not installed it yet or tried it with a trailer, but I hope to do so soon. The new item looks very durable and well built. I have some grade 70 chain and hooks that will work well with it.

 

[wcampbell47]

Ok so I have gone through 2 bumper pull trailers for my tractors and now have a 20 foot gooseneck car hauler, 10,000 lb GVW. I also had a bumper pull 4 yard dump trailer. If you acquire a trailer long enough to put your entire tractor on with nothing hanging over to move it around then great. Hope it is a tandem axle. Load the trailer with most of the weight over the tandem axles avoiding too much weight ether fore or aft.

My 4 yard dump trailer would actually raise the rear end of my F150 to the point I had no traction when fully raised. It had to be fully raised to unload the material. So there I was stuck on occasion. No traction on rear tires and material not coming out.

Your 3 point hitch "trailer mover" in my opinion is not the best to tow loaded trailers. The tractor draw bar would be the better option. The trailer mover ball is further to the rear of the tractor than the drawbar. Thus when weight goes on the tongue of the trailer the front of the tractor will get lighter quicker with the "trailer mover" than if the trailer was hooked to the drawbar. The tractor drawbar is stationairy while the trailer mover attached to the 3 point can move up in certain circumstances. For light loads and ease of attachment the trailer mover might be ok. For heavy loads use the drawbar.

 

[Ooklaa]

Well the dump cart is nor full, got interuppted with a package i recieved . I got the dump cart from home depot for 300 bucks.

 

[Ooklaa]

I have an open 6 x 10 trailer that I had specially built to be very strong but to be lightweight enough for me to move it around by myself on flat surfaces. It is strong enough to handle my scut but not long enough for it. While my scut could move it around just fine empty . . If I filled it . . My scut would not be able to control it on uphill or downhill movement. I'd have the power . . But not the tractor weight or wheelbase. I bought a Polar Industries cart to haul heavy loads with my scut. It can handle 1500 pounds of payload plus the 225 pound cart.

Axke can you post a picture of the polar utility cart. Weather it attached to the back of the tractor or on the side of it, i just see the overll size. I have been looking at it online and like it alot. Might even return what i bought from home depot and order the tandem axle hd500.

 

[AxleHub]

Axke can you post a picture of the polar utility cart. Weather it attached to the back of the tractor or on the side of it, i just see the overll size. I have been looking at it online and like it alot. Might even return what i bought from home depot and order the tandem axle hd500.

Greetings Niko,

I got the single axle version from the local Farm and Fleet store on sale. In addition I got the addon "sides" which comes in really handy for bulky loading to haul a big load of leaves or hay or whatever. The wide wheels mean its much less of sn issue on lawns as the wheels are like lawn tractor tires instead of trailer tires. The dual axle unit has the same body (size and material) as the single axle and handles the same payload. But the dual axle would be nice for 2 reasons . . It can self stand if you use your tractor to load dirt or mulch or rock into the trailer . . Or if you are going over rough land.

The 1500 lb version in single or dual axle is solid built and won't rust and can hold water. Price between the 2 items is different obviously but a heavier larger choice than all the others I considrred

If you're looking at it from the link I sent before . . thats as good as any picture I could post. Attaches to the back of the tractor nicely. In my case . . I used the mount hole under the 3 pt originally . . But then I now added an integrated 3 pt trailer mover and ballast that I designed and built that has a 2 inch receiver in it and so I now hook the trailer to that so it sits back further for tight turns and is height adjustable to because its on the 3pt. Either way it works well. If I were hauling rock or wood I'd probably add a real simple piece of removable plywood so I could drop heavy things in without being careful. By the way . . the trailer is very easy to keep clean . . But it sure can haul a load. Hauled concrete blocks and many bags of concrete with it . . Took out the piece of plywood I used to protect the floor from concrete block scratching. . Wiped it out quick and hauled it full of fertiltilizer bags right after.

 

[Ooklaa]

Well if u hve time one day id just like to see it on on our tractor. The pic i posted up on the first page and hopefully your picture wil give me a ruff idea if i should in invest in the hd1500 polar. I like the fact of the loading part with the dual axle version.

But i am lol confused because the belly sides of the polar dipes down, so im wondering if the hurts it when it comes to loading prodcuts. Yes u can get the side bars, nut i cam also can get the sode bars for my 17cu ft cart. Im also curios to kmow if both cart have the same material. Mine is a brinly hardy.

Anyways the bigger the better for stuff i gues as the polr hd1500 is 22cubic ft vs the brinly hardy which is 17.

 

[AxleHub]

Well if u hve time one day id just like to see it on on our tractor. The pic i posted up on the first page and hopefully your picture wil give me a ruff idea if i should in invest in the hd1500 polar. I like the fact of the loading part with the dual axle version.

But i am lol confused because the belly sides of the polar dipes down, so im wondering if the hurts it when it comes to loading prodcuts. Yes u can get the side bars, nut i cam also can get the sode bars for my 17cu ft cart. Im also curios to kmow if both cart have the same material. Mine is a brinly hardy.

Anyways the bigger the better for stuff i gues as the polr hd1500 is 22cubic ft vs the brinly hardy which is 17.

Niko,

The link below shows s video on the hd1200 and hd1500 trailers and the dual axle models as well.

I looked on the internet on the brinly trailer you have.

It looks to me like your comparing 2 quite different trailers. 17 cu. Ft vs. 22 cu. Ft is not the issue imo.

The brinly has a weight payload of 850 pounds and the polar hd1500 is 1500 pounds. That is a huge difference.

The wheels on the brinly are 16 x 6.5 inches and the wheels on the polar are 18 x 8.5.

The length of the brinly INCLUDING HITCH BAR is 6 inches longer than just the trailer box of the polar (not considering hitch bar).. in other words the brinly trailer could fit inside the polar trailer.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...EeRlbQ&usg=AFQjCNGyBHSE42cYPrcR3_3bMgu7brMoxg

 

[Ooklaa]

The picture must not do it jutice at all. The polar look smll.

 

[Ooklaa]

If anyone ever see the polar hd1500 (8262)tandem axle lower then 630 with free shipping please send a link.

 

[AxleHub]

Ooklaa, I know where you are there are no Farm and Fleet stores or Fleet Farm stores or Theisens stores. but each of these carries one or more Polar products and Farm and Fleet carties all of them in stire except the dual axle product. However I'm sure they can order it. . . . and they do have a website farmandfleet.com

As I recall Polar is a Minnesota company. I would have to believe that in your part of the country . . there are franchise chains that carry these ATV and Farm related products.

I know that when I got the single axle version at Farm and Fleet . . It was on sale for less than what the Polar website was advettising it for by a nice discount.

 

[lambs]

I think the OP was about a trailer that could haul the tractor and a tractor that could safely pull the trailer loaded. I have a Massey 1010 with turf tires and a 4 x 8 utility trailer. I made 3 foot sides for my trailer so I could haul 3 cubic yards of mulch at a time (2100 lbs). I pull it with a Dodge Dakota 3.9l 5-speed. At the house, I hitch the tractor to it and put the trailer exactly where I want it in the plant beds.

If I reverse the rear tires on the tractor (dish in), I can take the sides off my trailer and put the tractor in it for transport.

The 1010 weighs about 1300 lbs, is rear wheel drive only, and the only problems I have with a load of mulch is making sure I can stop it on a hill.

I do not recommend a 3 pt hitch draw bar adapter. You can tow with it but always remember that the hitch is designed to lift, not to hold anything in a down position. So a trailer that is not balanced can actually raise the hitch, at least on my 1010.

 

[Ooklaa]

Ill take my time and wait for a good price. Clam Outdoors they are the distributor for them polar trialers.

Yes the thread first started about the weight and what i can pull with my Gc1720. The hd1500 tandem axle 1500 pound payload sounds like a Lot of firewood to me . Just gonna wait to see if i can get a better price.

 

[AxleHub]

Ooklaa, have you had a chance to use your Nassey in snowclearing yet If so, how dud ut go?