Trailer, towing, weight questions.

   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #1  

Ooklaa

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Dutchess county, ny
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Massey Ferguson gc1720
I am curious to find out from others if you use your sub compact to tow any open/dump trailers. I see most trucks have a towing capacity. So im looking to find out what people have used or are doing now.

Id like to buy a open trailer big enough to tow my massey, but also looking to use my massey to tow the trailer around for firewood etc.

I have a 17cu ft utility dump cart i got from home depot awhile ago that i use on my small JD125 to tow around my firewood. Hooked it up it my Massey and obviosuly it can tow alot more.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #2  
When I had my Ford 1700 4WD I used my tandem axle trailer to haul firewood on the property. I never used this trailer on the highway - just around my property, so speed was never a concern. I was able to get 2 3/4 full cords of split green P. pine on the trailer and tow it back to the wood shed. I would estimate that the trailer fully loaded would easily weigh 3X the weight of the little Ford. The only problems I ever had was at times the trailer would lift the rear tires of the tractor off the ground - when going over swales. A touch on the throttle would cause the front tires to pull and bring everything back on the ground.

I'm very sure that this situation exceeded anything the manufacturer ever anticipated - but since I never went much over 2 mph and was always on my property.................... I learned to stack more wood at the front and this solved the "lifting" situation.

As an example - my owners manual(Kubota M6040) lists my current tractor weight at 4675 lbs - - the implement table states that the max trailer weight that should be towed is 9900 lbs. Or roughly 2 to 1. Check your owners manual for their recommendations.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #3  
I want to do this exact same thing. I have a single axle dump trailer and I believe the GWR is about 5,000 lbs. It can haul about a cord of firewood, maybe a little more. I want the tractor to pull this trailer when it is full of wood, dirt, debris, gravel, or whatever. I envision pulling the trailer behind my truck to get a load of gravel, then using the tractor to position the trailer around the property where the truck might not go.

I have ordered a 3-point trailer hitch but have not received it yet. I will certainly try it out when I get it. (The hitch was recommended in another recent thread in this same forum.) I'll provide some feedback once I get the practical experience with the two.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions.
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#4  
I want to do this exact same thing. I have a single axle dump trailer and I believe the GWR is about 5,000 lbs. It can haul about a cord of firewood, maybe a little more. I want the tractor to pull this trailer when it is full of wood, dirt, debris, gravel, or whatever. I envision pulling the trailer behind my truck to get a load of gravel, then using the tractor to position the trailer around the property where the truck might not go.

I have ordered a 3-point trailer hitch but have not received it yet. I will certainly try it out when I get it. (The hitch was recommended in another recent thread in this same forum.) I'll provide some feedback once I get the practical experience with the two.

Yes please do, videos of the bad boy in action would be awesome! Ill post some up of my utility cart.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #5  
I am curious to find out from others if you use your sub compact to tow any open/dump trailers. I see most trucks have a towing capacity. So im looking to find out what people have used or are doing now.

Id like to buy a open trailer big enough to tow my massey, but also looking to use my massey to tow the trailer around for firewood etc.

I have a 17cu ft utility dump cart i got from home depot awhile ago that i use on my small JD125 to tow around my firewood. Hooked it up it my Massey and obviosuly it can tow alot more.

I have an open 6 x 10 trailer that I had specially built to be very strong but to be lightweight enough for me to move it around by myself on flat surfaces. It is strong enough to handle my scut but not long enough for it. While my scut could move it around just fine empty . . If I filled it . . My scut would not be able to control it on uphill or downhill movement. I'd have the power . . But not the tractor weight or wheelbase. I bought a Polar Industries cart to haul heavy loads with my scut. It can handle 1500 pounds of payload plus the 225 pound cart.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #6  
You might run into a problem in the winter with snow because of traction loss pulling a big trailer with your tractor. In the summer you can pull a long enough trailer any day of the week but may be difficult to get into tighter spaces with a long one. It depends on your layout of your property.

The worse thing that can happen if you get a big trailer to tow your tractor is you may need a smaller one for tight spaces, or you may not be able to fill the bigger trailer all the way up.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions.
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Trying to uplaod a image and im heaving a problem. I had my 17cu dump cart filled to the top and on the fell i had my oayne forks with 700 pounds of desk i orderd. Had to be real careful with loader or the *** was ready to come up :).
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #8  
I got the hitch attachment.

In case you are worried, trust me that the packaging that this item is in will survive just fine in the event of an atomic missile attack. Gawd, it took me over a half an hour to get the thing out of the packaging!!!

Have not installed it yet or tried it with a trailer, but I hope to do so soon. The new item looks very durable and well built. I have some grade 70 chain and hooks that will work well with it.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions. #9  
Ok so I have gone through 2 bumper pull trailers for my tractors and now have a 20 foot gooseneck car hauler, 10,000 lb GVW. I also had a bumper pull 4 yard dump trailer. If you acquire a trailer long enough to put your entire tractor on with nothing hanging over to move it around then great. Hope it is a tandem axle. Load the trailer with most of the weight over the tandem axles avoiding too much weight ether fore or aft.

My 4 yard dump trailer would actually raise the rear end of my F150 to the point I had no traction when fully raised. It had to be fully raised to unload the material. So there I was stuck on occasion. No traction on rear tires and material not coming out.

Your 3 point hitch "trailer mover" in my opinion is not the best to tow loaded trailers. The tractor draw bar would be the better option. The trailer mover ball is further to the rear of the tractor than the drawbar. Thus when weight goes on the tongue of the trailer the front of the tractor will get lighter quicker with the "trailer mover" than if the trailer was hooked to the drawbar. The tractor drawbar is stationairy while the trailer mover attached to the 3 point can move up in certain circumstances. For light loads and ease of attachment the trailer mover might be ok. For heavy loads use the drawbar.
 
   / Trailer, towing, weight questions.
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Well the dump cart is nor full, got interuppted with a package i recieved :). I got the dump cart from home depot for 300 bucks.

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