Transfer pump hose

[JJZ 109]

Just bought This transfer pump from Northern Tool. Looking for a small length of hose (approximately 6') to attach to it for fueling a Kubota B3030 cab out of a 5 gallon can.
Obviously I need something that will stand up to diesel without breaking down, but 14' seems to be the standard length from TSC, NAPA or online stores. I did find one online from Ace hardware, but even that is a 10 footer and I'd rather not have a bunch of hose coiling around things or creating a tripping hazard.
Anyone know of a spot to purchase shorter lengths?

 

[JJZ 109]

Well, now the hose is the least of the problem. It would appear that the female thread on the discharge side of the pump is metric. Now the problem would be to find a way to adapt it to either 3/4 or 1 inch NPT so that I could use any of the widely available hoses.
Maybe the thing will go back to Northern Tool for something easier to attach a hose to or to at least adapt somehow.

 

[LBrown59]

Just bought This transfer pump from Northern Tool. Looking for a small length of hose (approximately 6') to attach to it for fueling a Kubota B3030 cab out of a 5 gallon can.
Obviously I need something that will stand up to diesel without breaking down, but 14' seems to be the standard length from TSC, NAPA or online stores. I did find one online from Ace hardware, but even that is a 10 footer and I'd rather not have a bunch of hose coiling around things or creating a tripping hazard.
Anyone know of a spot to purchase shorter lengths?

Just go to an auto parts store and get a 6 foot piece of fuel line hose in 1/2 5/8 or what ever diamater you want / need.
They will cut it to length for you.
If you had a diesel pick up where would you find fuel lines for it; at an auto parts store,right ?

 

[LBrown59]

Well, now the hose is the least of the problem. It would appear that the female thread on the discharge side of the pump is metric. Now the problem would be to find a way to adapt it to either 3/4 or 1 inch NPT so that I could use any of the widely available hoses.
Maybe the thing will go back to Northern Tool for something easier to attach a hose to or to at least adapt somehow.

This is a much nicer - better pump for only 68 dollars more
and the fittings to connect it to a 1/2 5/8 or other diameter hose are readily available.

If it were me I'd send the hand pump back to Northern and exchange it for this one.
I used a pump like this and 1/2 inch hose to build this set up?

 

[JJZ 109]

I can probably get the adapter that I need Here, but do you think I can find a thread pitch gauge at the local Lowe's or Home Depot? There doesn't seem to be any listed online at those stores so I'm not wasting time on a 12 mile drive to search the store. I need to find out exactly which thread I'm dealing with before I can try to adapt to NPT. I guess I'll try my luck Monday at the local Fastenal or Hiawatha Fasteners.
I'm only fueling one tractor every once in a while, so a hand pump will serve the needs just fine. Pretty discouraging though to find out about the metric thread and not be able to jump in the truck and go grab what I need to adapt it.

 

[LBrown59]

Now the problem would be to find a way to adapt it to either 3/4 or 1 inch NPT so that I could use any of the widely available hoses.

I went with 1/2 inch hose because it's more flexable than the bigger bulkier stiffer awakward to handle 3/4 and 1 inch stuff.
The half inch stuff is much easier to handle coil and store than the 3/4 and inch stuff.

 

[JJZ 109]

If it were me I'd send the hand pump back to Northern and exchange it for this one.
I used a pump like this and 1/2 inch hose to build this set up?

I just took a look at Northern Tool's website. The return policy states that the process takes 2 -4 weeks. I'm thinking that I can get this thing adapted to a 3/4"NPT well before that time frame.

 

[LBrown59]

I can probably get the adapter that I need Here,

Have you tried local plumbing shops and local plumbers for the fitting?

 

[JJZ 109]

Have you tried local plumbing shops and local plumbers for the fitting?

I took a quick look on ebay and found the exact same 12 volt pump that you mention, brand new for $109. It was $140 at Northern. I bought the ebay pump and am in the process of getting a RMA from Northern to send the hand pump back.
I'd rather deal with good old NPT.

 

[LBrown59]

I took a quick look on ebay and found the exact same 12 volt pump that you mention, brand new for $109. It was $140 at Northern. I bought the ebay pump and am in the process of getting a RMA from Northern to send the hand pump back.
I'd rather deal with good old NPT.

Way to go
Even if you don't use much fuel and elect pump set up is worht it.
Much better than lifting and lugging heavy cans of fuel and pouring from them.
Less mess /fewer spills too.

 

[JJZ 109]

I'll still be pumping out of a small can, but I think I'll probably go with service station type 3/4" hose and a nozzle that I can grab at the local TSC.
There's a cab on this tractor, so I can't stand up in the driver's area to lean over and pour from a can like I could on my previous tractor.

 

[PILOON]

"There's a cab on this tractor, so I can't stand up in the driver's area to lean over and pour from a can like I could on my previous tractor."

Same problem for me!
Simply impossible to hold 5 gal container at arms length and pour without spilling and getting all dirty from greasy FEL arms.
I use an 'cheepo' cast iron hand crank pump (about $19.00) from a 25 gal drum mounted on an old hand cart.
To adapt a hose I welded a 1/2" NPT to hose plumbing adaptor and use auto parts fuel line that I terminated with 90 deg PVC barb to barb PVC hose elbow.
The elbow works just fine as my nozzle.
Cranking the fuel is real easy going and takes but a few mins.
Really effortless (and clean).
When full I reverse crank to empty the hose contents back to the fuel caddy.

 

[LBrown59]

I'll still be pumping out of a small can, but I think I'll probably go with service station type 3/4" hose and a nozzle that I can grab at the local TSC.
There's a cab on this tractor, so I can't stand up in the driver's area to lean over and pour from a can like I could on my previous tractor.

I have that type nozzle on my system but I got mine from Northern Tool becaus TSC was out of them at the time.

 

[Soundguy]

all my local 'real' parts stores like napa/carquest sell hose by the foot.. fuel line included.

soundguy

 

[JJZ 109]

This is a much nicer - better pump for only 68 dollars more
and the fittings to connect it to a 1/2 5/8 or other diameter hose are readily available.

If it were me I'd send the hand pump back to Northern and exchange it for this one.

As you probably recall, I did just that. The pump just arrived UPS. Now here's something funny: Remember when I said that it was the exact same pump and it was $109 compared to $140 at Northern Tool?
The receipt with the pumped looked very familiar. Just like Northern's. Had the same Ft. Mill, SC address, only the company name was Great Plains Manufacturers/Distributors.
This must be Northern's ebay branch. But I saved $31 for the pump, so I'd be the last to complain!
I know that I can get the service station type hose and nozzle at the local TSC. Finding a 15 gallon plastic drum with handle and 2 openings on top is the problem of the moment. I've got friends checking around locally and a wanted ad on the local Craigslist. Cheapest so far is $10 on ebay, but tack on another $15 to ship it to me. I'm thinking that someone with a pool close by will have one somewhere. I understand that chlorine or some pool chemical is shipped in those.

 

[DieselPower]

If you need some of those 15 gallon jugs with a handle stop by your local dairy farm, they will probably be more than happy to give you a couple of truck loads of them. All the local dairy guys around here are over run with them. They get their teat wash and other dairy chemicals in them.

 

[LBrown59]

As you probably recall, I did just that. The pump just arrived UPS. Now here's something funny: Remember when I said that it was the exact same pump and it was $109 compared to $140 at Northern Tool?
1*The receipt with the pumped looked very familiar. Just like Northern's. Had the same Ft. Mill, SC address, only the company name was Great Plains Manufacturers/Distributors.
This must be Northern's ebay branch. But I saved $31 for the pump, so I'd be the last to complain!
2*I know that I can get the service station type hose and nozzle at the local TSC.
3*Finding a 15 gallon plastic drum with handle and 2 openings on top is the problem at the moment. I've got friends checking around locally and a wanted ad on the local Craigslist.
4*Cheapest so far is $10 on ebay, but tack on another $15 to ship it to me.

1*Would you happen to have the name and address and part number off that receipt?
2*You can use the TSC nozzle and still go with 1/2 or 5/8 fuel line if you desire.
The nice part about that is you're not limited to just one length of hose .
3*Yep finding drums can be a challenge
I looked a long time for 30 and 55 gallon drums for my set up system.
4*The best deal I could find at first was a place in Columbus Oh. that reconditions drums.
Their drums were $25~for a 30 or 55 gallon your choice.
UPS shipping was 25 dollars per drum.
Then I got lucky a guy advertised 12 30 gallon drums in the paper.
I bought the whole lot of them for $36 and kept 2 of them for my set up and put the other 10 up for sale.
I still have one left for $15.
I still needed 3 55 gallon drums and found 1 at a flee market for $17 and 2 from a private party for $12 each.
My next door neighbor gave me a 15 gallon one just like you are talking about .
To bad you are so far away and I don't want to get rid of it.

 

[JJZ 109]

All set now except for the fuel container. Have pump, 14 foot hose, nozzle, filter/water separator and fittings for all from TSC. Also bought a deep cycle marine battery for the pump.
LBrown - sent you a private message with the info you requested.

 

[LBrown59]

1*All set now except for the fuel container.
2*Have pump, 14 foot hose, nozzle, filter/water separator and fittings for all from TSC.
3*LBrown - sent you a private message with the info you requested.
4* Also bought a deep cycle marine battery for the pump.

1*I have a 30 gallon drum I've been offering for sale in the local paper for $15 ; but I'm thinking maybe I better keep it in case I want to build another fuel storage set up later.
2*That's a real good start, keep us posted with your progress.
3*Thanks .
4*I just used this battery charger.



It was always just setting around in the way doing nothing most of the time anyway.
Powering the pump with it gave me a handy easy way to store it and it's easy to disconnect from the pump if I need the charger for something else.
Going with the Charger which i all ready had saved me the cost of buying a battery too.
This arrangment has worked out very well for me.

 

[JJZ 109]

Here's what the setup looks like so far:

Where the 90 degree elbow is will be another straight piece of pipe going into the diesel. Now if I could only come up with one of those jugs! I may have to bite the bullet and buy one online somewhere if nobody comes up with one this week.