Treating Well

[MNBobcat]

The only thing I have to go on is where it comes up out of the concrete slab in the basement its a black poly pipe. Could be poly only for a short distance though. I don't know.

 

[Soundguy]

not doubting you. just unfamiliar with that setup. It's unlike any water system I've ever designed or worked on.

around here.. black poly is mostly agg application..

we have black pvc as well as black abs. black abs are usually waste fittings

I have seen black polybutylene water line in manufactured housing.. and that would be potable / code.

I also , in industrial and underground utility applications.. like distribution, have seen black HDPE pipe.

i'm almost betting yours is butylene.. would make sense. Again. I work in florida.. I don't know any of your state codes.. etc. on;ly palces that really freeze here are in lil boxes attached to refrigerators..

 

[MNBobcat]

not doubting you. just unfamiliar with that setup. It's unlike any water system I've ever designed or worked on.

around here.. black poly is mostly agg application..

we have black pvc as well as black abs. black abs are usually waste fittings

I have seen black polybutylene water line in manufactured housing.. and that would be potable / code.

I also , in industrial and underground utility applications.. like distribution, have seen black HDPE pipe.

i'm almost betting yours is butylene.. would make sense. Again. I work in florida.. I don't know any of your state codes.. etc. on;ly palces that really freeze here are in lil boxes attached to refrigerators..

It may be butylene. I only called it "poly" for lack of not knowing how else to describe it.

I love Florida. I used to go there a lot. Would like to live there but the other half won't move.

 

[SPIKER]

In the WELL CASING at the top (below frost line) is a "PITLESS ADAPTER" is it metal (Brass usually) and has two parts one inside and one outside. The Inside parts slip into a wedge opening in the bolts through the casing to the outside part. There is (usually 1") threaded that turns 90 degrees down the well and a (usually 1") going UP so you can drop a hunk of 1" pipe down and thread into the pitiless adapter and pull the pump up and out. The part left in the casing is tight against the casing so the pump can slip past & there is usually a O-Ring between the parts to keep the water from leaking past it. If you ever have to pull the pump be sure to look for the o-ring and reinstall with a good coating of Vaseline to help it slide & seal.

Most pump companies will use 20' sections of Schedule 80 Threaded (PVC) for the drop pipe but some older installs used the Black Poly (HDPE) in heavy wall version. There is Threaded connections on both inside and outside the Casing which can crack and or leak. There is a Rubber gasket between the casing and the threaded pitiless adapter which is what keeps ground water out.

Google Image Result for http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/paulthurst41_pitless_adaptor.jpg

Mark

 

[Midniteoyl]

In the WELL CASING at the top (below frost line) is a "PITLESS ADAPTER" is it metal (Brass usually) and has two parts one inside and one outside. The Inside parts slip into a wedge opening in the bolts through the casing to the outside part. There is (usually 1") threaded that turns 90 degrees down the well and a (usually 1") going UP so you can drop a hunk of 1" pipe down and thread into the pitiless adapter and pull the pump up and out. The part left in the casing is tight against the casing so the pump can slip past & there is usually a O-Ring between the parts to keep the water from leaking past it. If you ever have to pull the pump be sure to look for the o-ring and reinstall with a good coating of Vaseline to help it slide & seal.

Most pump companies will use 20' sections of Schedule 80 Threaded (PVC) for the drop pipe but some older installs used the Black Poly (HDPE) in heavy wall version. There is Threaded connections on both inside and outside the Casing which can crack and or leak. There is a Rubber gasket between the casing and the threaded pitiless adapter which is what keeps ground water out.

Google Image Result for http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/paulthurst41_pitless_adaptor.jpg

Mark

This...

But, I dont have a rubber gasket/shield.. Mne is just the pitless adapter

 

[SPIKER]

This...

But, I dont have a rubber gasket/shield.. Mne is just the pitless adapter

You can not see the rubber (see the black rubber on right part in pic) that gets squashed between the NUT, Casing and INNER angled brass part. That is all buried underground so you will not see it unless installing/removing it. It is called "PITLESS" because you can pull the pump without digging a PIT to get the pump out. The part on the LEFT has O-Ring groove and one OPEN to pipe down well and one CLOSED 1" NPT threaded ports.


Mark

 

[Midniteoyl]

Oh, THAT gasket! I was thinking he and you were talking about a rubber shield going from the pitless to the PVC well casing..

 

[Soundguy]

It may be butylene. I only called it "poly" for lack of not knowing how else to describe it.

I love Florida. I used to go there a lot. Would like to live there but the other half won't move.

i love florida. hope to never move. born / raised here.

visted many other palces inthe us. some I WOULD live in.. but am happiest here

 

[speedbump]

I do not like Chlorinators and discourage their sale. But customers buy about 50 a year from me. Water treatment salesman sell them like candy. They use them to oxidize iron and to remove the sulphur odor from most of the water around here. We have no bacteria problems with properly drilled wells beyond 50 feet deep. People put these things on, turn them up all the way and forget them. Most of the time there is a carbon filter behind them to remove the over dose of chlorine so they don't care how high the dosage is. If they use a galvanized tank for retention time, it will not last 5 years in most cases.

Most of the bacteria you find in wells was put there by someone handling the pipes the pump hangs on.

 

[ozley]

Most of the bacteria you find in wells was put there by someone handling the pipes the pump hangs on.
Don't work in my county farming has made over 75% wells bad. I use a 12 gpm black light system.