Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #131  
So for you folks with the no-tolerance approach to keeping people off your property: Do you provide another mechanism for people to contact you if they need something (such as a phone number on your no-trespassing sign)? Or is it just "if I didn't ask you to be here I don't care who you are or why you need me"?
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #132  
GPS is accurate enough. The military and farmers use it for tracking things down to inches (cm?). What isn't accurate enough are commercial/public map databases and road mapping.

Different resolution. The road mapping systems aren't as accurate due to costs of the higher resolution systems.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #133  
Or is it just "if I didn't ask you to be here I don't care who you are or why you need me"?

That's about it. But I'm off property enough that people can contact me other ways if they really need to. Neighbors have numbers and whatever.
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #134  
... I am literally..... THE last house. ...

We are at the end of the road as well. One day I hear someone driving like a bat out of hades up our road. :mad: WTxxxx. I look out and some moron in a pick up towing a bass boat has driven up to the house. :confused3: Dude, ain't no lake on top of a hill...

The twit then drove to the back of our house. At this point he has gone from pavement, to gravel, past a gate that is posted, left the road, driven up a driveway, and then gone to the back of the house. :confused3::mad::shocked: This guy was not a deep thinker. I think he would loose a game of checkers with a dog. He needs to turn around, and there is plenty of room at the front of the house and there is plenty of room out back where he was trying to find a lake, but no, this genius decides to back down the driveway. :rolleyes: Well, he can't back a trailer either. Surprise, Surprise. Up to this point, I was just shaking my head at this twit but then he backed his expensive bass boat trailer into one of the wife's planting areas. :mad::mad::mad:

My best guess, is this guy could sign for loans for over $100,000 worth of truck, trailer and boat, but could not figure out how to set the GPS correctly to get to the lake. :rolleyes: He obviously was just following the GPS and not thinking. Flip side, is that GPS did not take him up to the house, that is for sure.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #135  
Of course it's the "deep thinkers" that are targeted for loans and financing!
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #136  
I guess I'd just park at the gate and lay on the horn for 10 or 15 minutes until the owner came out to see what's up. Then ask for directions to the nearest town. Then come back a few hours later and do it again. When they came back out, I'd say thanks, your directions were correct.

Then my neighbor who is closer to my gate than me would probably come out and shoot you...:eek:
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #137  
Common sense is lacking in a lot of folks. GPS is a tool to help you find a destination. Many drivers fail to think and validate what is comes from the GPS. Every year news has stories about people that drive off a cliff or in to a lake following GPS directions. Map reading is an exotic skill these days.
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Yep, map reading is lost today.

We took a trip to Ireland last year and we spent a couple of weeks driving around in one small area in the western part of the country. We flew in to Dublin, picked up a rental car and used it for the time in the country. Ireland is one of the worst and most expensive places to rent a car. We took all of the insurance, including broken windshield insurance based on what we had read, and we are glad we did, since we were not in the car more than and hour or two, when we went through an area where the road was being tarred and graveled and a truck heading in the opposite direction put a rock in the windshield which then cracked. :rolleyes:

One of the up charges on the car rentals is having the car GPS turned on. :rolleyes: I think it was $10 a day. :shocked: The plan had been to pick up a sim card at the airport but that did not happen even though we had a 3-4 hour trip, if we did not get lost, driving the back roads from Dublin to where we were staying. However, I had bought, not one but two, different road atlases, one of which was updated and published just before we left home. We had spent quite a bit of time on Google Earth/Map studying the are we were staying, the problem was getting there. :laughing::laughing::laughing: Seemed simple enough. However, one important road sign was not quite right. We were on the M50, which is the highway that goes around Dublin, and we needed to get on the M3, which is the highway that goes across Ireland and eventually turns into the N3 which then goes into Northern Ireland. We saw the sign for the N3 which was really the M3 so we missed the turn. Should have figured it out but we only had a couple of seconds and I just went straight. :D:D:D

We did turn off on the M4 exit, which is just a short drive from the M3, and the M4 would take us to where we were staying but it would take longer. So we pulled out one of the atlases and started figuring out how to get from the M4 back to the M3. The M50 is like a wheel around Dublin with the M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, etc, highways going out like spokes on a wheel. All we had to do was go a short distance on the back roads from the M4 to get to the M3. Which is what we did and had a blast driving down very pretty country roads/lanes.

If we had had GPS, it is very unlikely that we would have missed the M3 turn, but then we would have missed some pretty back roads driving. :D Twas all a good adventure. The only bad thing about the missed turn was that it cost us about an hour which was a bit much since we had been traveling for about 24 hours or so. But it was worth it.

We eventually got sim cards at our destination but never really used them to navigate around the rural area we were in. Just used the atlases. Many of the roads could barely be called roads since they were only single lane. Now, these roads have been in existence for a very long time, so they should be on the GPS maps, but I would have been very nervous blindly following GPS on those roads.

GPS has sent us, or tried to send us, on routes that were not best, more times than I can count.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #138  
That's what my wife and i do as well. We look at maps and gazetteer for the area, fun research before going on a vacation. We actually both know how to read a map and rudimentary compass skills, so when the map app looks to be steering us in the wrong direction. Case in point, during a drive thru Coos Bay in Oregon state, map app said take a left to such and such road to cross over to another road. There was a ravine in the way, we decided to drive around the ravine. :D
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #139  
Different resolution. The road mapping systems aren't as accurate due to costs of the higher resolution systems.

Partially true. The civilian GPS signals are not as accurate as military or commercial but the they are still plenty accurate for navigation if databases were accurate. It is not the actual positioning that misleads people. Civilian GPS is enough to tell you which side of a road you're on. The fact that your GPS nav tool is telling you that 123 Any St. is in the lake is not due to the positioning it is due to the database.

Rob
 
   / Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors #140  
That is the way most people feel even with signs up. If you want nobody to come to your place then put up 8 foot high fencing with concertina wire along the top and a remote operated gate with guard dogs for protection and privacy. That will end your problem with people visiting.

Why should I have to accept the cost of the fence? You are the one who can not read simple English!
 

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