Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

[Industrial Toys]

The latest greatest snowmobiles just seem all about noise. Most irritating! Like the organ donor kid on his crotch rocket, at the light, working the throttle.

The ATV/UTV club comes by here once a while. You think you were being invaded by a tank battalion. I bet the members get a real kick out of the noise they all make combined.

 

[Oaktree]

We have problems with snowmobilers and atv'ers. It's the same guys, they just trade one form of racket for the other, depending on the time of year.

There should be a bounty on them. Shoot them, skin them out, and nail their hides to the barn door as a warning to others. They rip up and down our property line, right along "the trail" (that they illegally put in). But they also rip up and down our driveway, through our yard, chase our livestock, tresspass in the field behind our house, rip all the "no tresspassing" signs down, pulled down a section of fence blocking off one field, rip past our house on both the trail side and on our private property side late at night, with open exhaust 2 stroke "race" snowmobiles (aka LOUD).

Wow, nothing like that around here. I've seen a few landowners where the trail passes thru a field who post "stay on trail or stay home" signs, and for the most part everyone is well behaved.
There are no ATV trails in my town that I know of, though as I mentioned upthread some towns further north that do have ATV trails seem to be quite divided on them, largely due to the noise, dust and general rowdiness. If an ATV club wanted to use my property as a trail I would decline.

 

[rademamj]

After I purchased my 27 acre property, which is pretty isolated, I put up two security gates, 10' high and all new fences and have posted/trespassing signs. Still several groups have deliberately penetrated the property for either sales or personal curiosity. I am friendly with the neighbors, but they are unreliable and untrustworthy. I carry a firearm in the tractor, cuz my wife does not want me to become a crime stastic.

 

[STERLING351]

I am one of those who loves my privacy. I have a shared driveway with a neighbor who I like, our drive way about half a mile long then splits to my gate and his. My house is in the center of my property surrounded by liveoaks and mesquite trees. No random stranger who needs medical attention will show up at my door, anyone who is uninvited and shows up at my place is not greeted nicely (this has yet to actually happen). When I bought my land I did not just open my neighbors gate and go say hello, I saw him driving one day and flagged him down on my Polaris to introduce myself and exchange numbers. When ever i have needed to contact another neighbor who's number I don't have, he gives my number to them too see if they would like to speak to me. I really like they guy and the others in my area because we all respect privacy. He will always call before he wants to come over and talk to me or even see if one of his cattle is mixed in with my herd.

I am one of those who believes the No Trespassing sign has no grey area. If you were not invited over then you need to F-Off.

 

[paulfun9]

Have to agree with you. My little 20 acres is a "honey hole" for the things. Stories of people selling them for $30-50 a pound. But there has been a drastic reduction in morels over the last two years. Locals think the decline of ash trees is tied to it.

Good news for me...I burn downed ash if it is free, and less incentive for the mushroomers to make the trip. But it is sad to see ash trees being decimated. Keep wondering what species is going to get hit next.

I simply take the mushrooms they picked! They are mine and they have not and will not ever leave my property with them. If they happen to have some mixed in with the ones picked from someplace else unless they can show me a receipt they are forefitting them also!

Haven稚 had a mushroom picker since I started this policy!

 

[Diggin It]

I'm non-violent, but in regards to some of the signs posted clearly tongue in cheek , I remember seeing this one in stores:

'Trespassers will be shot on sight.
Survivors will be shot again'


Reminded me of an old joke:

Two guys are out hunting. One gets shot.

Other guy calls 911: 'Hey, we're out hunting and my buddy got shot. I think he's dead'
Operator: 'Are you sure he's dead?'
Other guy: 'Hang on, I'll check'
Footsteps going away
BANG
Footsteps coming back.
Other guy: 'Yup, he's dead.'

 

[shooterdon]

I'm non-violent, but in regards to some of the signs posted clearly tongue in cheek , I remember seeing this one in stores:

'Trespassers will be shot on sight.
Survivors will be shot again'


Reminded me of an old joke:

Two guys are out hunting. One gets shot.

Other guy calls 911: 'Hey, we're out hunting and my buddy got shot. I think he's dead'
Operator: 'Are you sure he's dead?'
Other guy: 'Hang on, I'll check'
Footsteps going away
BANG
Footsteps coming back.
Other guy: 'Yup, he's dead.'

There are stories of a guy getting "accidently" shot during deer season who had messed around with someone's wife. It supposedly happened a long time ago before the requirement to wear orange came into effect. Much easier to "accidently" shooting someone wearing a brown jacket than someone in fluorescent orange.

 

[CobyRupert]

Reminded me of an old joke:

Two guys are out hunting. One gets shot.

Other guy calls 911: 'Hey, we're out hunting and my buddy got shot. I think he's dead'
Operator: 'Are you sure he's dead?'
Other guy: 'Hang on, I'll check'
Footsteps going away
BANG
Footsteps coming back.
Other guy: 'Yup, he's dead.'

Reminds me of the old joke:

Two guys walking, one gets bitten by a rattlesnake.
2nd guy calls a doctor.
Doctor says "You need to suck the poison out right away or your friend is going to die."
First guy asks his friend: "Dang, this snake bit me right on the pecker. What did the doctor say?"
2nd guy: "Sorry bud, but Doc says you're going to die!"

 

[MH8675309]

Sounds like some of these people should go back to the city where people don't neighbor as much or help when there's a need. I own property too but dont feel a need to have a militant attitude about people coming up the driveway

 

[FTG-05]

There are stories of a guy getting "accidently" shot during deer season who had messed around with someone's wife. It supposedly happened a long time ago before the requirement to wear orange came into effect. Much easier to "accidently" shooting someone wearing a brown jacket than someone in fluorescent orange.

I used to teach Hunter Safety Classes in WA back in the 80's.

One class we had was with the local Game Warden. He told us that during the previous year (1988?) there were four accidental shooting fatalities during deer hunting season. But he said they highly suspect one fatality was actually a murder.

FIL and SIL, both live in the Seattle area. Both were hunting about 250 miles from home at the same time. However, they weren't hunting together nor did they travel together. One just "coincidentally" ended up within a couple hundred yards of the other and then "accidentally" shot the other. He said they couldn't prove it, so apparently someone got away with murder.

 

[txdon]

Sounds like some of these people should go back to the city where people don't neighbor as much or help when there's a need. I own property too but dont feel a need to have a militant attitude about people coming up the driveway

Will all the anti-social people stay in the city around thousands of people or be drawn to the rural secluded areas?

 

[greenmojo]

After I purchased my 27 acre property, which is pretty isolated, I put up two security gates, 10' high and all new fences and have posted/trespassing signs. Still several groups have deliberately penetrated the property for either sales or personal curiosity. I am friendly with the neighbors, but they are unreliable and untrustworthy. I carry a firearm in the tractor, cuz my wife does not want me to become a crime stastic.

That's terrible. Makes ya mad.

We have some great neighbors, and we have some drug dealing neighbors. You can guess which ones I don't mind stopping by whenever they like.

Our two labs came home one night with marijuana poisoning, and during the 12AM emergency vet visit, she discovered that one of the labs had been stabbed with a pitch fork - he had an 8" wound channel - nearly killed him. Sheriff's Deputy told us which neighbor it was likely, but said short of finding the bloody pitchfork in his hands, there is nothing that can be done. Dogs are now in a large dog run, and only come out when the family is outside.



I need to install the gate sooner than later.

 

[greenmojo]

Sounds like some of these people should go back to the city where people don't neighbor as much or help when there's a need. I own property too but dont feel a need to have a militant attitude about people coming up the driveway

Valuing and respecting privacy and private property have absolutely nothing to do with that. It's interesting that those who don't mind people dropping in on them, sure like to judge those who don't.

My bulldozer has been on every single neighbors property, my snowblower has cleared every single persons road and driveway, my truck and trailers have hauled gravel for nearly everyone around here. We are all very friendly and very social - it goes back to my original post - I don't mind close friends or family dropping in, just not the random stranger.

In-fact I'm up early to go help a neighbor move some irrigation lines and drag a field.

 

[CobyRupert]

That's terrible. Makes ya mad.

We have some great neighbors, and we have some drug dealing neighbors. You can guess which ones I don't mind stopping by whenever they like.

Our two labs came home one night with marijuana poisoning, and during the 12AM emergency vet visit, she discovered that one of the labs had been stabbed with a pitch fork - he had an 8" wound channel - nearly killed him. Sheriff's Deputy told us which neighbor it was likely, but said short of finding the bloody pitchfork in his hands, there is nothing that can be done. Dogs are now in a large dog run, and only come out when the family is outside.

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I need to install the gate sooner than later.

Came home from where?
You grow marijuana on YOUR property?
...and have pitch fork carrying strangers on it too?

....but, yeah, about those people who don't respect property rights...

 

[greenmojo]

Came home from where?
You grow marijuana on YOUR property?
...and have pitch fork carrying strangers on it too?

....but, yeah, about those people who don't respect property rights!!!

If I could eye-roll any bigger right now I would... very unintelligent.

The dogs would disappear at night, and the belief is that a certain neighbor to the south was inviting the dogs into his home and feeding them. He also happens to be the local pot and meth-head. The neighbor approached me months earlier, told me loved my dogs and was lonely and didn't mind them stopping in and visiting him.

When the one dog was stabbed with a pitch fork and had been fed marijuana, the Deputy visited him and he told the Deputy he had never seen my dogs, they'd never been at his place and he didn't know anything about them or what had happened. Nothing you can do about it, but keep your dogs away from them -- so like I said, the dogs don't go anywhere at all -- they live in the dog run and are only outside when the family is out or when we are working cattle or on the horses.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

House just sold near me, new owners put up a 6 ft high, solid white fence down thru the woods, across the road frontage, except the drive. Nothing on the other property side. No gate yet, across the drive, but no trespass signs on both sides of the drive. It just looks ugly, out in the country, had to cost a fortune. House is up a slope, so it doesnt block the view to the house. Since it's in the woods, it will be covered in green mildew soon, and will really be ugly.

Told the wife, must be city folks...

 

[widefat]

If I could eye-roll any bigger right now I would... very unintelligent.

The dogs would disappear at night, and the belief is that a certain neighbor to the south was inviting the dogs into his home and feeding them. He also happens to be the local pot and meth-head. The neighbor approached me months earlier, told me loved my dogs and was lonely and didn't mind them stopping in and visiting him.

When the one dog was stabbed with a pitch fork and had been fed marijuana, the Deputy visited him and he told the Deputy he had never seen my dogs, they'd never been at his place and he didn't know anything about them or what had happened. Nothing you can do about it, but keep your dogs away from them -- so like I said, the dogs don't go anywhere at all -- they live in the dog run and are only outside when the family is out or when we are working cattle or on the horses.

Here's what I would do to keep your dogs from 'being called' onto someone else's property:
One evening, after dinner and and your normal conversational period, grab a white board.
Sit the dogs down and have a stern discussion about not crossing the property lines, even if the fella next door offers them milk bone treats.
Pull out the deeded plats, and show the dogs where the survey lines are and describe any markers they may see to indicate location.
On the whiteboard, outline different sceanrios they may encounter.
If your dogs are one of the more intelligent breeds, you may even give them a handheld GPS preloaded with waypoints that they can reference.

There really is no excuse for any dog to be unaware of where the property lines are. I mean really.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

We have a house pretty much in the middle of 95 acres, private drive with No Trespassing signs. Long paved drive to the house which can not be seen from the road. Only had two "visitors" in 7 years un invited. They didn't stay long. I have met all the neighbors out on the main road and plow them out after a snow storm; have also told all of them to never come down our driveway. They all understand and respect our privacy. Our one neighbor has had his cows get loose a few times and they always end up in our fields; no big deal, I call him up and he comes and gets them. We moved here for the piece and quiet, and dog gone it, I'm going to have it. Respect for what is another's goes a long ways out in the country.

 

[rademamj]

Re: Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

Sounds like some of these people should go back to the city where people don't neighbor as much or help when there's a need. I own property too but dont feel a need to have a militant attitude about people coming up the driveway

Its not a militant attitude, when it comes to personal safety.

I grew up in rural Central New York in the 1950's; it was Dairy country, and i was related to or knew every family within 10 miles of the farm. Everyone knew each other from meeting at the same church, same schools and same grocery stores. And Fences were to keep cows in the Pasture and racoon out of the corn. There was zero crime.

When I moved to Houston in 1990's, my world of neighborhood friends was just about 5 houses, both up and down the street. There were total 64 houses on the street. We helped each other out after storms and hurricanes; and formed a nightly neighborhood watch when Houston crime skyrocketed. Fences were mainly for a little privacy on weekends.

Fast forward to 2017 when I retired in Central Texas; and purchased a 27 acre undeveloped lot and I replaced all the 75 year old barb wire fences, which were cut down about every 100 feet. Apparently the lot was used as a dump site for many years by my neighbors; random contractors and just about anybody else who desired a free dumping location. The new welded wire fence line has totally eliminated unwanted dumping.

But it got really serious concerning personal safety; when 4 months ago, two skid steers, with combined worth $130,000 were stolen at night from a locked and secured property only a mile away. Security cameras showed the thieves to carry firearms during the theft. That's when I installed security gates and "no trespassing" signs; to reduce possible tractor and vehicle theft at my property.

Later I find that no tractors have been stolen in over 3 years in my Texas county.....but skid steers are very common targets.

 

[paulfun9]

Re: Trespassing signs, etiquette, good & bad neighbors

I get a kick out of those who criticize us for wanting our privacy, safety and property secure from trespassers.
This is simple like my signs say

“No Tresspassing”
“This Means You”
“No Excusses”
No Exceptions”
“No explinations”