Trespassing signs

[David P]

The post about manure reminded me of a client of mine who is a diary farmer and found a jeep that got stuck in one of his fields. The kid had worked for him in the past and so there may have already been some bad blood between the two so when the farmer saw the fields all torn up he was pretty steamed. He decided to unload a wagon of manure on the jeep...... and the windows happened to be down. I think he took pity on the kid and helped him get the jeep unstuck but let's just say the lesson was learned.

This story brings a smile to my face every time I remember it.

 

[bcp]

If you could do this to your trespassers, even without the fire:

Pickup Truck Fire Put Out with Cow Manure | Fantasy Garage

Bruce

 

[dmccarty]

Being the Tree geek that I am I use a nylon line that is UV resistant if I can. Reason being is it is no fun hitting nails and screws with a chainsaw if that tree needs to be cut up. I leave a bit of slack in the line to allow for growth.. Plain old nylon line will work for a long time. I like the one posters idea of thorns and poison ivy! :thumbsup:

I was wondering when a treehugger, logger type would show up talking about the use of nails to hold signs in trees. I do not like to do it either. On of the big trees on my property line got hit by lightning and needs to be dropped. It has a few nails in it but I do know where they are. :laughing: I think.

How are you attaching the line to the signs? Seems like cutting holes in the signs would make the sign rip faster and just blow in the wind. Or are you using wood/metal signs?

Later,
Dan

 

[Treemonkey1000]

I was wondering when a treehugger, logger type would show up talking about the use of nails to hold signs in trees. I do not like to do it either. On of the big trees on my property line got hit by lightning and needs to be dropped. It has a few nails in it but I do know where they are. :laughing: I think.

How are you attaching the line to the signs? Seems like cutting holes in the signs would make the sign rip faster and just blow in the wind. Or are you using wood/metal signs?

Later,
Dan

If the sign doesn't have holes in it because I use metal signs then I will thump holes in with a nail. Then use a bit of wire loop through the hole to keep the metal edges from cutting the string. Then wrap the string around top and bottom of the sign with a square not that I can let some slack out later if I need. As far as finding nails seems like my chainsaw is a pretty good metal detector.. I have used a decent metal detector in the past and painted where I get "hits" with the metal detector. Some of the mills around here won't accept trees from home owner lots due to the risk of nails and metal.
PS: I like the purple paint idea. That won't harm chainsaws.

 

[rd_macgregor]

I've been mounting all my signs on pieces of plywood cut somewhat larger than the sign, then attaching the sign to a fence post or tree. The last couple I put in were mounted to the trees with 3" self-tapping hex-head screws. It tends to be pretty windy here and I was concerned that leaving any slack (either by not snugging the screws down or by using rope or something to tie the sign to the tree) would let the sign whip back and forth until something just broke loose.
Thankfully, most of our local ATV folks are either respectful of signs or too lazy to get off their machines if there is some impassable obstacle in their way (ie, they might trespass if it isn't signed or blocked). Hence, I am planning installation of several counterbalance, self-raising, bar-gates across critical (obvious) access points. The first (to a woods trail) will be a 14' board with a pivot point about 30" from one end and a counterweight on the short end so the open (up) position is the default...I'll have a latch arrangement to lock it down most of the time, and signed, too, of course!
BOB

 

[Qapla]

Here in Fl, Spanish Bayonet (Yucca schidigera) makes a good fence cover crop. Even if the fence gets old and deteriorated, once the Spanish Bayonet is mature it will keep growing, in fact it can be hard to get rid of.

One attempt through such a barrier is usually all it takes to never do it again.

Now, as for the gates and road access, that is another problem and many people think the signs apply to everyone except them.

 

[chipsndust]

If the sign doesn't have holes in it because I use metal signs then I will thump holes in with a nail. Then use a bit of wire loop through the hole to keep the metal edges from cutting the string. Then wrap the string around top and bottom of the sign with a square not that I can let some slack out later if I need. As far as finding nails seems like my chainsaw is a pretty good metal detector.. I have used a decent metal detector in the past and painted where I get "hits" with the metal detector. Some of the mills around here won't accept trees from home owner lots due to the risk of nails and metal.
PS: I like the purple paint idea. That won't harm chainsaws.

I use aluminum nails to attach signs and/or markers to trees on my property lines.

I drive the nails in only as far as necessary to hold the sign secure, leaving as much nail exposed as possible to allow for tree growth.

Usually takes at least five years for the tree to grow enough to consume the nail, most markers/signs have deteriorated before that.

The aluminum nails don't dull my chainsaw.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

:thumbsup:

I use aluminum nails to attach signs and/or markers to trees on my property lines.

I drive the nails in only as far as necessary to hold the sign secure, leaving as much nail exposed as possible to allow for tree growth.

Usually takes at least five years for the tree to grow enough to consume the nail, most markers/signs have deteriorated before that.

The aluminum nails don't dull my chainsaw.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

I like this one

 

[BeeferMan]

My farmer buddy lets this guy roam the pastures with the cows. He will run with no hesitation...... at you! Not docile at all. There's a reason he is sporting that length of chain on his nose ring.

Just saw this and thought I'd explain this. The reason for the length of chain hanging from the nose ring is this bull obviously has a history of not respecting electric fences. A setup like that learns 'em real quick...

 

[mjw357]

. So-called 'nature lovers' (hikers, horse folks, etc) are the absolute worst as far as respecting landowners. They feel that they are entitled to using your land, and are the first to leave litter behind. I still have yet to ever see a horse rider carry a pooper-scooper.

Seriously, you'd want riders to pick up the manure? And do what with it? It's grass clippings for all intents and purposes, anyway.

I will say this though, there are riders who drink/smoke/litter and somehow just can't seem to pack out what they packed in. I see beer cans, water bottles, empty lighters, smoke boxes along trails. I just don't get that.

 

[davethegundoctor]

Go to the NRA
David Pidgeon

 

[Dr_Zinj]

Seriously, you'd want riders to pick up the manure? And do what with it? It's grass clippings for all intents and purposes, anyway.

I will say this though, there are riders who drink/smoke/litter and somehow just can't seem to pack out what they packed in. I see beer cans, water bottles, empty lighters, smoke boxes along trails. I just don't get that.

I'll take all the horse manure they want to leave. Works good spread around the rhubarb and roses or tilled into the main garden.

Trash is what really pisses me off, especially broken glass bottles and tossed cigarette butts.

How about a sign, "Pretty trespassers will be violated, then prosecuted. All others take their chances."

 

[Surshot]

If you live in FL you should look up the tespass laws, you might be suprised. I put Tree Farm signs on my fence. Why? A fence itself in FL is a no tresspass marker. Trespassing on agricultural property in FL with a firearm is a felony. Tresspass period is a misdemenor. However, in FL the owner or his represenative may arrest the offender on the spot and detain them for the LEOs.

Read your laws and know the law. You may not need a no trespass sign.
Ed

 

[charleyfarmall]

In Maine you have to post your property or they can trespass

 

[jpm1]

In our family we own close to 800 acres so we go where we want, when we want., but others thought the same. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! We solved the problem by going out at verious times of the day or night and firing off lots of rounds of ammo. Sometimes it sounded like a war zone, we had a blast! and it was very effective too with unwanted people. The stories that were told were really funny even the law men who come to investigate chuckled. People don't even ask to hunt our land, its great! Like our own little country!. . .Word of mouth and reputatin work the best for us .. . Shoot first, ask questions later. . .John :thumbsup:

 

[Johnny_B]

I would make a sign that said, "TRESPASSERS SHOT ! SURVIVORS, PROSICUTED! Then go out at different times of the day or evening and waste some rounds of ammo. This worked great for me. Its kinda funny to hear stories people make up about you after hearing a lot of gun shots at different times of the day or evening. . . John

That kind of reminds me of the one time for work I had to approach various landowners about property access. I saw a sign on a gate that read, "Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again". Needless to say, I didn't bother the person.

 

[Johnny_B]

I will say this though, there are riders who drink/smoke/litter and somehow just can't seem to pack out what they packed in. I see beer cans, water bottles, empty lighters, smoke boxes along trails. I just don't get that.

It is really no surprise, look at the amount of garbage laying along the roads and highways. Lots of disgusting pigs out there that think their car/truck window is the opening to a bottomless trash can.

 

[bpsooner]

Just the society we live in. People do not respect other people's possessions. They don't care if they trash it, its not theirs. Just look at those people in that occupy movement. They dont care what they trash.

 

[sunnyside360]

It is really no surprise, look at the amount of garbage laying along the roads and highways. Lots of disgusting pigs out there that think their car/truck window is the opening to a bottomless trash can.

This is one of the main reasons I started posting my property (300 acres). Few bad apples in the hiker and ATV crowds that raise hec, build fires and leave their trash. Situation just kept getting worse. I've caught many trespassers since the posters went up but let most go with a warning. Did press charges on three occasions -- $300 fine plus costs for each offense.