HEY!! I'm proud of you! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I told you guys that setting it down was harder than picking it up. Now I admit that I am cheating a bit using a tooth bar and all, but for setting it down all the advantage goes away and a whole new set of problems creep in. I can pick it up like you did and I can put it down again, but every so often I still dump it (good idea with the bungie cords). After you get good at this you can work your way up to a basketball. Thats right a basketball. Now that's hard. First time I tried it I had to chase the thing all over the place till I traped it against a rock./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif