truck info wanted

[Builder]

Now that the toy show is over.....

I think this is what the OP wants: 2002 Freightliner FL-70 CrewCab 4X4 C/C - eBay (item 330509139663 end time Jan-06-11 07:28:47 PST)

 

[tcartwri]

We use a 4400 series IH with a 20,000 lb rear axle to haul a 20 ton float. You can get this truck in an extended or crew cab config for about $90K. Add $10K for an auto tranny.

 

[Builder]

last time I priced a new version of my truck with 4WD it was $110,000.

 

[77bronco]

Last I heard, adding 4X4 to a class 6 or 7 truck was a $15-20k upcharge when ordering a new one.
If I remember correctly, when I ordered my 4400 in '06, the crewcab and auto trans added about 15k to the tab.

 

[QRTRHRS]

I was wonder how big of a truck I needed to tow 20 to 25,000 pounds, plus trailor weight, and be able to hold tools, air compressor and fuel tank in the bed. I was thinking a 1 ton daully or a Chevy Kodiak, I want 4 wheel drive and a crew cab. The trailor will be a goosenek, not sure on length yet.

05rammer, have you researched gooseneck's with that kind of capacity? Most of what I see are rated 20-~22.5 gross. I am thinking you are getting into air brake territory. If so, the market for used 4x4's becomes tighter. Mostly you will find cab/chassis and no air plumbed to the rear or the back of the cab. Of course that can be added at an additional cost.

I think this was a good thread as your needs are at the extreme end and that always brings up plenty of "discussion". Plenty to learn for sure.

 

[Builder]

You don't have to get airbrakes on the trailer. Plenty of hydraulic braked trailers out there in the 10,15 or even 20 ton range. I prefer air brakes on the trailer, though.

Adding air & gladhands to the rear isn't very expensive.

 

[Diamondpilot]

My old 25+5 GN with tandem duals was rated at 25,000# It had dual 12,000# axles and electric brakes. It would stop on a dime behind my old 99 F-350 PS 4x4 and I had it load up many times. Dead simple but heavy. That trailer was every bit of 6,000# empty.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Ummmm....yeeeeahhh....ssssure.
To the OP: I wouldn't suggest pulling 25,000lbs behind a pickup because it exceeds the manufacturers GVWR by like 10,000lbs, but what's 5 tons over GCWR hurling down the highway between friends. :confused2: Yikes talk about a huge lawsuit......:confused2: make sure you put the house in the wife's name only if you're gonna make the roads unsafe like that. LOL

Back on topic: The 4x4 version is nice, but trust me, you give back in visibility over the higher nose, so parking/manuevering is tougher. I wouldn't suggest 4WD unless you really need it.
From experience with "real trucks" : I'd get an overpowered, air-braked crewcab tractor and use it as a 5th wheel. Buy yourself a nice used Pete, KW, IH or Freighty with between 325-400HP and a Rogers lowboy and baby you're all set. No stress, no strain, no huge fines from the cops for making a pickup truck into a tractor trailer.:laughing: :confused2:
Also, I would avoid the smaller displacement diesels as they are purposely underpowered for the job of towing heavy machinery. Ask me how I know.

 

[05rammer]

I don't think Petes and Kenworths have crew cabs do they? Or can you put seat that are leagal in a sleeper?

 

[Builder]

I'm pretty sure a sleeper or condo can have a day seat. IH & Freightliner, GM & Ford can be crewcabs right out of the box.