Truck weight registration

[Rock knocker]

Yep. Most have had that around here for a few years.
Many also list an unladen weight so that you cant say that you didn't know how much it weighed empty.


IIRC, Federal actually only requires brakes on one axle if the trailer GVW if over 30 pounds.


Not quite. Your link states that a CDL is required for:
1. A single vehicle with a GVWR over 26k
2. A trailer with a GVWR over 10k IF the truck GVWR and the trailer GVWR combined are over 26k.
(same rules as NY)
So, a 12,001# trailer behind a 14,001# truck is illegal without a CDL because the combined GVWR is over 26k. A 11,999# trailer behind a 13,999# truck is legal without a CDL because the combined GVWR is not more than 26,000#.

Aaron Z

You're right Aczlan, I understand it correctly, but wrote it wrong

 

[Rock knocker]

LoL! If my rambling shakes the tree of knowledge enough that we get the right answers to fall out of it for the benefit of the group, then so be it!!! So in conclusion, my understanding of the rules had me way on the low side of things for the Non-CDL people. My apologies to anyone in that boat, but watch out when your trailer is 10,001 and up, because your truck rating combined may or may not require a Class A CDL... Nanna can haul her 25' Chris Craft (9900lbs) with her Diesel Pusher Bus Motor Home (26,000lbs) and not need a CDL!!! I think some people mentioned that crap scares them more----well me too knowing what I do now!!!! Good Lord help us all!!! I just thought those people had a CDL or were 26,000 or under combined (my former understanding of it).

Hey Ted, you're alright! We've had this discussion here before, and often guys with CDL's will wrongly tell us how dumb we are because we don't believe their erroneous views. They then have a full fledged inter net melt down and get banned. Case485 had the most beautiful melt-down of all.

 

[farmer2009]

Never realized until now that you could pull a 10000# behind a 26000# truck with out a CDL. Always thought that required a class B CDL. Because your over 26001# combined. But when I look at your link and the flow chart at about post 47. It all reads the same. That flow chart is te one in the CDL manual also.

Oh well. I always play on the safe side by having a class A CDL.

I know what you mean about these discussions because I have been in them before over in the transportation thread. I always unsubscribed from the thread when it started to get bad. And now I no longer visit that board.

 

[Soundguy]

probbaly why you see these guys with 10k 1tons and 14k trailers running around. all under 26 ( 24 even )..

 

[aczlan]

Never realized until now that you could pull a 10000# behind a 26000# truck with out a CDL. Always thought that required a class B CDL. Because your over 26001# combined. But when I look at your link and the flow chart at about post 47. It all reads the same. That flow chart is te one in the CDL manual also.

It depends on the state. NY says that over 26k combined with a trailer over 10k requires a CDL.
So, a 12,000# truck pulling a 14k trailer is fine, but a 12,001# truck with a 14k trailer is not.

Aaron Z

 

[Rock knocker]

It depends on the state.

It's really all Federal in a round about way. The Feds allow the states to have their own rules, but they are in violation of federal law and will loose federal funding if they do not meet the minimal fed standards. And if they exceed the federal standards they could run afoul of interstate commerce laws.

Kind of like how the states decide their own drinking age, but if it is not at least 21, the feds take their money.

 

[tedmed0302]

Hey Ted, you're alright! We've had this discussion here before, and often guys with CDL's will wrongly tell us how dumb we are because we don't believe their erroneous views. They then have a full fledged inter net melt down and get banned. Case485 had the most beautiful melt-down of all.

LoL! I'll do a search for Case485. I can always use a good laugh!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

If you put farm plates on it you won't need a CDL. Farm equipment is exempt.

 

[bcp]

If you put farm plates on it you won't need a CDL. Farm equipment is exempt.

Depends on the state how they regulate farm trucks and drivers.

Washington truck license:
WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: DOT numbers for intrastate commercial vehicles
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Flow chart for CDL:
WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Who needs a CDL?
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Washington CDL farm exemptions.
WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Who doesn

Bruce

 

[tcartwri]

If you put farm plates on it you won't need a CDL. Farm equipment is exempt.

Your also limited to a 150 mile radius from home.