Rock knocker
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Correct, gross over 26K and the trailer is over 10K.
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Correct, gross over 26K and the trailer is over 10K.
tedmed0302
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Gents, a Person with a Class B license---can take a trailer up to 10,000 with his truck regardless of gross and be ok. As soon as you cross 10,000 on the trailer a Class A is needed---IF you are a Class B driver. However, a Non-CDL Person can not cross 26,000 single or combined. Ask any Inspector/Trooper. What he is saying is Grampa (anyone non-CDL) can jump in his GMC 26,000 Dump Truck full of stone (but not overweight) and hook up a Tag Trailer at 10,000 with say a Bobcat on it and be fine---at 36,000 combined. However if Grampa hooks up his 11,000 trailer by mistake (forgot his glasses and they look identical), he won't be fine because he is over 10,000----and at 37,000 combined. Is this the correct logic? We are ok at 36,000 combined (going by the rules---actually your rules) but not ok above this for a NON-CDL person---because the limits are what people---not just "Truck Drivers" need to know here... Folks my dog agrees with me to stay under 26,000 combined in MA and KY (so far) if you don't have a CDL, but that's up to you!!
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Norm, I like the flow chart, but where did you get it? By the way it reads I'm "incorrect" at saying over 26 combined equals a CDL though, LoL!! Which is scary to think Grampa can run the roads at 36,000 combined, no CDL!!
Then you have the agricultural exemption... but now I am muddying the waters and confusing people as mentioned in post 42.
farmer2009
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I agree with the first half of your post but then you flip. A 36000# combination vehicle would require a class B CDL.
Rock knocker
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Depends on how it was comprised. If composed of a straight truck exactly 26K towing a trailer exactly 10K, no endorsement is needed.
Who Needs a CDL?
Ted is just rambling nonsense
Rock knocker
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Corrections noted
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LoL! If my rambling shakes the tree of knowledge enough that we get the right answers to fall out of it for the benefit of the group, then so be it!!! So in conclusion, my understanding of the rules had me way on the low side of things for the Non-CDL people. My apologies to anyone in that boat, but watch out when your trailer is 10,001 and up, because your truck rating combined may or may not require a Class A CDL... Nanna can haul her 25' Chris Craft (9900lbs) with her Diesel Pusher Bus Motor Home (26,000lbs) and not need a CDL!!! I think some people mentioned that crap scares them more----well me too knowing what I do now!!!! Good Lord help us all!!! I just thought those people had a CDL or were 26,000 or under combined (my former understanding of it).
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I had a question on a old truck one time, and I needed to move it, and to register it and license it was out ragous IMO. and they changed some rules to increases state revenue, by back charging if you did not keep the license plates current,
and I got thinking one day so I called a different office, and started to ask about the rules of towing the truck,
no license was necessary on the towed truck and was legal (at least at that time to move from coast to coast) if the towing unit was properly licensed, and insured, all it need was s et of magnet tail lights on the back iend, and a sign that said in tow,
so I made a tow bar for the truck for the few times I needed to move it to a different location,
as long as I was not on a road and on private property no license or insurance was needed.
and I got thinking one day so I called a different office, and started to ask about the rules of towing the truck,
no license was necessary on the towed truck and was legal (at least at that time to move from coast to coast) if the towing unit was properly licensed, and insured, all it need was s et of magnet tail lights on the back iend, and a sign that said in tow,
so I made a tow bar for the truck for the few times I needed to move it to a different location,
as long as I was not on a road and on private property no license or insurance was needed.
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Yep. Most have had that around here for a few years.
Many also list an unladen weight so that you cant say that you didn't know how much it weighed empty.
IIRC, Federal actually only requires brakes on one axle if the trailer GVW if over 30 pounds.
Not quite. Your link states that a CDL is required for:
1. A single vehicle with a GVWR over 26k
2. A trailer with a GVWR over 10k IF the truck GVWR and the trailer GVWR combined are over 26k.
(same rules as NY)
So, a 12,001# trailer behind a 14,001# truck is illegal without a CDL because the combined GVWR is over 26k. A 11,999# trailer behind a 13,999# truck is legal without a CDL because the combined GVWR is not more than 26,000#.
Aaron Z
