jwstewar
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But they sold more trucks than Ford
Tundra vs. Chevy
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But they sold more trucks than Ford
oldpilgrim
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Geico can save you 15% over other insurances.
Allstate will save you 20% over others.
Progressive will save you money over all others.
lies ad nauseum.
jwstewar
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Huh??? Did you even look at the link? It wasn't a GM ad, that was from a site reporting sales, which BTW, happens to be the same numbers I saw on the USA Today website the other day.
oldpilgrim
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I didn't say that it was an ad. I just used those quotes as examples of info that varies by whomever reports it.
I just can't trust 'statistics'. They are so easily manipulated.
I just can't trust 'statistics'. They are so easily manipulated.
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That is the truth. Who knows what's real. Stats in percentages like I posted and others have posted can be easily manipulated. I'm as guilty as anyone for buying into it.
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My opinion, GM made a big mistake by increasing the price of their truck, not once but twice. My truck stickered for $43k and a truck setup exactly like mine now stickers for $45k. There are stripped down work trucks that sticker for $42k, I've seen them. I thought my truck was high at $43k but the price increase was stupid on their part.
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According to GM's own reporting numbers (see their website) Silverado sales were up 10.3% in 2014 versus 2013, and Sierra sales were up 14.9% for the same period. For 2015, Silverado is up 14.7% year to date over the same period in 2014, and Sierra up 6.4%. Not rocket science, it's just year over year comparisons like any company or industry does all the time.
2015 F-150 sales are still slightly constrained by production from what I read in the news last week, so I am not surprised if they are a little behind. The numbers should be more realistic once they are up to full speed.
2015 F-150 sales are still slightly constrained by production from what I read in the news last week, so I am not surprised if they are a little behind. The numbers should be more realistic once they are up to full speed.
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A common joke about stats when I was in college was one about a guy who drowned crossing a river with a statistical average depth of 1 foot.
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Figures lie and liars figure.
Copperhead
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Brand loyalty is really hard to understand, at least for me. I have found great vehicles in every brand, and vehicles I couldn't wait to get rid of in every brand. I am not sure why some folks will go to the mat over a particular brand. Maybe if that OEM was giving them the vehicle for free, I guess.
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Same here, I try to find the good rated vehicles regardless of brand. I have a Chevy car and 3 trucks, one Ford one Dodge and one Toyota. All are good and have gave good service, and I have done repairs on all of them.
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I'm a Ford guy but have a friend that has a 06 GMC Yukon with 365000 miles. He's close. Engine using a lot of oil now though and a lot of engine lights on in dash. Lol
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Copperhead
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Surprisingly, many fleet operated pickups seem to pull off some pretty impressive high mileage numbers, which is strange considering employees driving them are not really treating it like they are paying the bills for it. This was impressive, a Ford with a 5.4L gasser with over 1 million miles going in for an engine teardown to see how it looks. Again, a fleet operated vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDF1zcaxrNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDF1zcaxrNU
Fordman1981
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Boy that was a nice commercial. I'll have to DVR TBN so I can fast forward through the next one.
Copperhead
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It is what it is. I don't have any dog in that hunt. I do know of several fleets that have lots of pickups that are getting some pretty impressive high mileage numbers without major component failures, across the brand spectrum and using a wide variety of brands of oil doing it. Could be because, unlike individual owners are prone to do, they are not dicking around with their pickups and trying to modify the snot out of them. They just perform regular maintenance as recommended and operate them as the OEM intended.
Fordman1981
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I know of some getting high miles too of all brands. All manufacturers put out good vehicles and bad. I was just poking fun of the video you posted every other word was Schaeffer's oil. It reminded me of infomercials.
oldpilgrim
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just yesterday there was an article on msn.com about which vehicles (cars and trucks were judged together) maintain their value the best.
Tacoma was the the one that held it's value the best, retaining 74% of it's sales price after three years.
Next was a certain model Jeep.
Third was the Tundra.
Take it for what it's worth.
Tacoma was the the one that held it's value the best, retaining 74% of it's sales price after three years.
Next was a certain model Jeep.
Third was the Tundra.
Take it for what it's worth.
Copperhead
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Yeah it did do that Fordman. I only took an interest in that it was supposedly a play by play tear down of a motor that had been documented as actually turning over 1 million by a reputable tech school. While I am sure Schaefer was really on top of this, the tech school itself had their reputation on the line, so it seemed more legit that some of the infomercial stuff. But it sure had that appearance with the constant reference to Schaeffer oil. But who knows, it might have been a slight of hand sort of thing and not truly legit. I guess we'll never truly know.
I can believe the Tacoma taking a top spot. Just in what I have seen over the years, that little pickup just keeps going and going. It has to be darn near the most reliable in it's class. I sure would take a serious look at it if it would fit what I needed. Not sure the Tundra can quite make the same claim. While resale value may be there, that could be influenced by the carry over reputation Toyota has with the afore mentioned Tacoma.
I can believe the Tacoma taking a top spot. Just in what I have seen over the years, that little pickup just keeps going and going. It has to be darn near the most reliable in it's class. I sure would take a serious look at it if it would fit what I needed. Not sure the Tundra can quite make the same claim. While resale value may be there, that could be influenced by the carry over reputation Toyota has with the afore mentioned Tacoma.
