Twisted Loader

Zipperhead0 · Dec 28, 2006

Man you guys are all so helpful. This is the greatest site.

Ford 850 it is possible that the hauler bent the loader, but of course I have no way to prove that.

I'm basically at the mercy of New Holland on this issue right now. If they don't want to fix it, I will have to pay for the repairs or live with it as it is. Needless to say I have a lot of work to do just checking on all of your suggestions.

I really appreciate all of the input. You guys all take care and have a happy New Year.

I'll let you know what I find out.

whitetiger · Dec 28, 2006

Air pressure in the FRONT tires will not have any bearing on weather the tractor sits level from side to side. Also don't waste any time measuring the level of the front axel either.

ducati996 · Dec 29, 2006

whitetiger said:
Air pressure in the FRONT tires will not have any bearing on weather the tractor sits level from side to side. Also don't waste any time measuring the level of the front axel either.

Tires can have a bigger effect than you think. How many times do we hear that the tires can be bigger than each other from the same model tire? It makes leveling decks and other things a little more difficult IMO

shvl73 · Dec 29, 2006

ducati996 said:
Tires can have a bigger effect than you think. How many times do we hear that the tires can be bigger than each other from the same model tire? It makes leveling decks and other things a little more difficult IMO

Wouldn't the rears have an effect but not the front, due to the front axle pivot?
I'm not sure but, it sounds right.

rback33 · Dec 29, 2006

shvl73 said:
Wouldn't the rears have an effect but not the front, due to the front axle pivot?
I'm not sure but, it sounds right.

Boy oh boy... glad you pointed that out.... I was scratching my head wondering why the front tire pressure would NOT make a difference.... forgot about the dang front axle pivot....

Guess we al have our days...

Birdman253 · Dec 29, 2006

You guys are right, due to the axle pivot, the front tire pressure shouldn't make any difference, but when dealing with an out of alignment issue, it is always better to cover all bases. If the front axle pivot is not lubed well, or is binding, uneven pressure in the fronts could cause an out of level situation with the frame of the tractor. By checking them also, you eliminate that variable from the equation.

That is why I said to check them also. Just another easy step to make sure all variables are eliminated.

jbrumberg · Dec 29, 2006

I agree with all the posts and I admit that I forgot about the front axle pivot. I believe the more variables you remove the easier the deviance will be to discover, but you can make yourself crazy trying to eliminate all the variables. How about making sure the FEL upright post tops are level and sides parallel and/or square

? Jay

AlanB · Dec 29, 2006

When we were playing with my dad's, we just put the axles on Jack stands so that it was consistent, and repeatable, Then a lot of time spent with a level and a tape measure. His had been welded and abused so much it was hard to even tell where to begin.

rback33 · Dec 29, 2006

jbrumberg said:
I agree with all the posts and I admit that I forgot about the front axle pivot. I believe the more variables you remove the easier the deviance will be to discover, but you can make yourself crazy trying to eliminate all the variables. How about making sure the FEL upright post tops are level and sides parallel and/or square ? Jay

You are hitting what I was hinting at earlier. I would not bother with tops of the posts, but the pivot points themselves. One post can be taller than the other with no harm, but pivot points mess everything up. Center to center is proper, but as long as you are consistent is doesn't really matter. As others said before, loosen the mount kit first and see if it relaxes into position. If that does not work, get out you measuring devices. I can guarantee it is not sprung and would be a MFG defect somewhere if it does not level out by loosening the mount kit. IT may be a minor defect and hard to find, but they should make it right. Don't forget to check the bucket either... mistakes can be made there too..

thcri · Dec 29, 2006

I am not so sure I would worry about it at all. If we all went out and laid our bucket on a flat concrete surface the majority of them would not be flat. 1" from end to end is not bad, just using the loader under normal condtions will cause some flex. In another thread people talk about using their brakes to steer when they dig into a pile. That has to twist a loader also.

Maybe some dealers could chime in here, and the above is just my opinion and experience of my own loader.

murph