Twisted Loader

   / Twisted Loader #21  
thcri said:
I am not so sure I would worry about it at all. If we all went out and laid our bucket on a flat concrete surface the majority of them would not be flat. 1" from end to end is not bad, just using the loader under normal condtions will cause some flex. In another thread people talk about using their brakes to steer when they dig into a pile. That has to twist a loader also.

Maybe some dealers could chime in here, and the above is just my opinion and experience of my own loader.


murph[/quote

On a new tractor and new loader the difference from one end of the bucket to the other should not be more than 1/8". We install a lot of loader every year on everything from TZ's to TG's and most of them are within a 1/8" or closer. I also have worked with a local loader manufacture in our shop measuring new model tractors for bracket fitting and have done many first installs for them. If something is of 1/64" bells go off and something gets done. Their goal is for the bucket on a new loader to sit level. We were working with a new loader manufacture on a new loader fit last week. I have not seen any of their small loaders yet, just their 200 HP plus loaders. They are made of T100 steel from Sweden.
 
   / Twisted Loader #22  
My DX33 has 100 hours now, probably 30 hours with the FEL bucket/forks. I lowered my bucket front edge on my shop floor tonight to see how level mine was. It was absolutetly perfect.

jk
 
   / Twisted Loader #23  
If I let mine down all the way and let the weight rest my bucket will level out too. But let it down gradually and see which side hits concrete first. Mine is about 1/2" off right now, but if I put my lever on float it will level out across. I just don't know if the original poster has too much to worry about. So I leave it to the dealers.

I will sit back and see what others say.


murph
 
   / Twisted Loader #24  
"I'm surprised these loaders are so sensitive. " [quote zipperhead]

Zipperhead, The CUTS tractors are really not that heavy. When digging with any loader it is important to go in straight. If you corner the bucket and then try and breakout the material it can exert tremendous force on one side of the loader frame. There is just a lot of force there. (If the material isn't breaking out that force is then transfered to the machine.) I am always carefull when digging to try and do this. Altough somewhere in the last 11 years I did bend the mounting bracket on my old JD 870 w/440 loader. 2,100 hours Only slighty but never the less it did bend. I have no idea when or where I did it. I have not check it to see if the bend affects how the bucket sits on the ground.

I would go further to say that I wouldn't worry too much about 1/2 to 1 inch. When do any of us have to be that close on grade.
 
   / Twisted Loader #25  
thcri said:
If I let mine down all the way and let the weight rest my bucket will level out too. But let it down gradually and see which side hits concrete first. Mine is about 1/2" off right now, but if I put my lever on float it will level out across. I just don't know if the original poster has too much to worry about. So I leave it to the dealers.

I will sit back and see what others say.


murph

That could be also happening due to cylinder and valves wear. One may be leaking more than the other. I am not having the impression that the owner of this thread has a level bucket at any point. As I read it it is an 1" off all the time. Just for heck I had to check my loader and all is perfectly flat. But without taking the loader off and checking everything... the rest is all speculation.

DM
 
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  • Thread Starter
#26  
Hello everybody and thanks for all of your suggestions. Today was the first day that I really had a chance to use the tractor. I spent about 6 hours moving snow (mostly with the FEL). The bucket is definately out of level when I lower it to the ground but it will level off if I put the loader in the float position.

I hate to seem like I am always complaining about this tractor because I was actually very impressed with the machine today. I am comparing this TC29 to my previous tractor which was a Kubota B7500. The NH is bigger and more comfortable for sure. It definately handled the work well today. I just am somewhat frustrated with a few minor problems that I didn't experience with the Kubota.

Two things I noticed today. First, after about one hour of use, in 20 degree temperatures, I noticed that the front bucket seemed to go very slow and sometimes stopped when I tried to dump the bucket. It ran fine in all other positions (raise, lower and scoop). It was just when I pushed the stick out to dump the load, the bucket moved slowly and sometimes stopped.

Also, I noticed that the bucket level indicator rod, which has a bend in the rod to indicate the level spot, was striking against one of the hydraulic lines hard enough that it seemed to pull hard on the line and will obviously cause premature wear to the hydraulic line. I actually repositioned the indicator devise which seemed to help a little. I am worried about the slow hydraulics on the bucket though.

As soon as I get a chance I am going to try some of your suggestions on checking the level of the loader.

I have to say, I think I fell in love with the TC29 today:D Just need to work out a few problems.

Take Care
 
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  • Thread Starter
#27  
Okay....okay....okay....stop laughing. I just read my Front End Loader Manual (Imagine actually reading the directions before using something) and learned that the dealer installed the bucket level indicator upside down. I turned it around and presto it works correctly. Sorry.........

Also I learned that my TC29 has a two-speed dump feature on the bucket. I need to play with that to get used to it.

Sorry...............have a good night. :confused:
 
   / Twisted Loader #28  
Just press all the way to the right, you should be able to feel the second dump postion and it will dump about twice as fast. Sorry to hear you've had some issues, my 33 arrived and has run flawlessly except for some minor noise issues that I resolved. I think this is what we all expect when shelling out this much money for a new tractor. No need to be sorry.

jk
 
   / Twisted Loader #29  
Zipperhead0 said:
Also I learned that my TC29 has a two-speed dump feature on the bucket. I need to play with that to get used to it.

I have read my owners manual multiple times. I learn something with every read.
Bob
 
   / Twisted Loader #30  
Zipperhead0 said:
Okay....okay....okay....stop laughing. I just read my Front End Loader Manual (Imagine actually reading the directions before using something) and learned that the dealer installed the bucket level indicator upside down. I turned it around and presto it works correctly. Sorry.........

Also I learned that my TC29 has a two-speed dump feature on the bucket. I need to play with that to get used to it.

Sorry...............have a good night. :confused:


You saved me some typing there on the second "problem." :D Glad you are getting things figured out.
 

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