Two loaded rear tire questions

[nickel plate]

2002 New Holland TC40S
Is there any way to tell if these R1 Ag rear tires are tubed or tubless short of removing and breaking down the bead to look inside? I will in the near future have to remove the off side rear tire to install a second set of rear remotes.

Is there any way to tell what solution they are filled with? What I drained has a very slight brown/amber color (gawd, I hope not rust) with no real noticable smell or taste. The fliud has been in the tires since I bought it new and the dealer has changed hands and personnel so I don't think they can help. Are there any tests to check this solution? If it turns out to be plain water and tubless, please recommend what to do at this point regarding rust supression.
Thanks

 

[rutwad]

Tubeless. Make sure you have enough antifreeze if it's water, and enough water in the tire to cover he wheel.

 

[dcyrilc]

2002 New Holland TC40S
Is there any way to tell if these R1 Ag rear tires are tubed or tubless short of removing and breaking down the bead to look inside? I will in the near future have to remove the off side rear tire to install a second set of rear remotes.

Is there any way to tell what solution they are filled with? What I drained has a very slight brown/amber color (gawd, I hope not rust) with no real noticable smell or taste. The fliud has been in the tires since I bought it new and the dealer has changed hands and personnel so I don't think they can help. Are there any tests to check this solution? If it turns out to be plain water and tubless, please recommend what to do at this point regarding rust supression.
Thanks

You tasted it without knowing what it is???:confused2:

 

[nickel plate]

Tubeless. Make sure you have enough antifreeze if it's water, and enough water in the tire to cover he wheel.

rutwad, please tell me how you know they are tubeless. Thanks

 

[dcyrilc]

rutwad, please tell me how you know they are tubless. Thanks

In your first pic, the valve stem has a nut on it. Tube tires don't have that.

 

[nickel plate]

You tasted it without knowing what it is???:confused2:

Didn't exactly gulp down a big swig-dipped a finger and took a lick:licking:

 

[dcyrilc]

Didn't exactly gulp down a big swig-dipped a finger and took a lick:licking:

You're a braver man than I am.

Did you understand my explaination of the valve?

 

[nickel plate]

You're a braver man than I am.

Did you understand my explaination of the valve?

Yes I did and thanks. That solves the first part of my question.
All of a sudden my teeth have gotten a lot whiter....

 

[luscsmith]

My tires have nuts and tubes.

Scott

 

[dcyrilc]

My tires have nuts and tubes.

Scott

I won't say that I've never been wrong on anything, but I've never seen a valve stem on a tube which uses a nut. The pressure inside the tube keeps the stem in place. With a tubeless, the nut is used to hold the stem tight so that it doesn't leak.

 

[dcyrilc]

Yes I did and thanks. That solves the first part of my question.
All of a sudden my teeth have gotten a lot whiter....

:laughing::laughing::thumbsup:

 

[nickel plate]

My tires have nuts and tubes.

Scott

Scott, I have absolutely no reason to doubt you so I might be back to square one.

 

[Elcid76]

I vote for tubeless based on the valve stem. You can get a better idea of what the fluid is by either heating it (and seeing when it boils) or sticking some of it in your freezer and seeing if it turns to ice at normal freezer temps.

 

[rutwad]

I was basing it on the valve stem. If some tubes have nuts, then you could loosen the nut and push the valve stem in. You may have to let some air out first. If it's tubed, no air will leak once you push the valve stem in. It will leak if it's tubeless.

 

[rutwad]

Take one gallon of the liquid and weigh it.

 

[tsteahr]

Why not just take a small amount of the liquid in a plastic cup and put it in the freezer?

 

[chopped]

I agree id say its tubeless due to the 'nut' appearing to me metal. But as you can see with this
11.2/12.4x38 Inner Tube - TR218A Valve Type - GEMPLER'S
There are plastic nuts to hold these tubes in with
On mine its standard to have a nut hold the tube stem in on the rears.And for the 40 years I remember they have always been plastic.
with a tube you should be able to remove this plastic nut with your fingers its that loose a fit usually.
Hope this helps.
Also from the pic I would guess its a calcium mixture..

 

[dcyrilc]

I agree id say its tubeless due to the 'nut' appearing to me metal. But as you can see with this
11.2/12.4x38 Inner Tube - TR218A Valve Type - GEMPLER'S
There are plastic nuts to hold these tubes in with
On mine its standard to have a nut hold the tube stem in on the rears.And for the 40 years I remember they have always been plastic.
with a tube you should be able to remove this plastic nut with your fingers its that loose a fit usually.
Hope this helps.
Also from the pic I would guess its a calcium mixture..

Isn't calcium corrosive? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

 

[Mace Canute]

Even if the dealer has changed hands, you should still be able to find out from the new owner, or any dealer for that matter, if the rear tires on a 2002 New Holland TC40S came from the factory with tubes or tubeless.

 

[whodat526]

looks like a tube because 90% of the tractor tires that has tubes and larger tractors have nuts to hold the valve stem in the whole so when u go to put air in the tire u dont push it back in and have to break the tire back down and put the stem pack through the whole

and it looks like plain water