Uneven FEL

[Bullzibart]

<font color="green">I have a JD 4210 and the Fel seems to be tweaked. On level ground the left side of the bucket is about 3 inches off the ground while the right is touching. I've taken the loader off and on a few times to see if that helped. All the brackets look tight and square. Nothing looks bent or broke and I haven't hit anything with it or lifted anything to heavy with it. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Lifting anything heavy is another post /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif The dealer will be picking it up in another week or two but thought I'd ask here what I should also look for. This has been getting worse over the last few months. Thanks for the help.</font>

 

[RonR]

Check the tire pressure in all tires. A few pounds either way and the bucket won't be level.

ron

 

[coveredbridge]

That was my thought as well. AS you sure the tractor is level?

Maybe you can string a line across the front wheels and attach a line level to check.

 

[Plan_B]

Bulzibart...

Your uneven FEL problem could be as simple as unequal tire pressure. Check your FEL again with the tractor sitting on a perfectly level area and make sure that the air pressure in each set of tires is equal. My guess is that since your problem has been progressively getting worse that you have a
slow leaking tire. Probably one of the rear tires.

Hope this helps. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Bullzibart]

<font color="green"> Thanks that was one thing I never thought of. When I get home later I'll give the tires a check. Thanks again</font>

 

[Bullzibart]

<font color="green"> While I'm here at work thinking about all this it came to me that it might not be the tires. While I'm parked on my paved driveway and lift the loader I watch as it lifts and compare it to the front hood guard. While the guard is level to the hood when lifting the loader the bucket or the fork backstop still raise uneven to the guard. If the problem was in the tires wouldn't the guard be off too? I'll still check the tires later. </font>

 

[AndyMA]

I've had this on a few loaders over the years. Sometimes it is as simple as loosening a few mounting bolts, jiggling the loader frame with a crow bar and retightening. Obviouslu check the tire pressure first. Also note that unless it is a poured concrete slab it probably isn't level.


Andy

 

[thcri]

What's with this green lettering? It must be a definition of bleeding green?? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



murph

 

[skivt]

The first new tractor delivered to my house had a bent frame, which caused the problem you are describing. It was off in relation to the ground, in my garage, and to the hood guard. After checking the air pressure and everything else, I proved to the dealer it was broken and demanded a new tractor.

The dealer confirmed my suspicion when they picked it up. It must have hit a curb or something to make it off by that much and yours is off by more. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

How long have you had this tractor?

Good luck,

skivt

 

[Barnboy]

I have a new B3030 with the same problem. My difference is 1 inch. I can see the left cyl. pick up before the right. My susp. is weak right cyl.The dealer picked it up today he's going to swap the cyl. around. If the left then picks up first he's going to order me a new one. I'll let you know.I too did check frame mount ect. all measered up perfect. It has to be in the hydro. cyl.

 

[Bullzibart]

I checked the tire presser last night and they are all the same. I've had the tractor since Oct. of last year and don't remember running into anything. We'll just have to wait and see what the dealer has to say. I'll keep you all updated.

 

[skivt]

Can you measure the distance from the top of the bucket to the top of the cross bar on the loader. Do this on both sides and compare the numbers. If it is off here, at least you know where to focus. Check for other ways to compare left side to right, section by section. You should find something that is different.

Good luck,

skivt

 

[Bob_S]

Mine is off by almost an inch. Has always been this way. All this talk makes me want to look into why mine is off. I always assumed it was a minor tweek somewhere but now, after reading some of the responses, I'm not so sure /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif. Keep all the suggestions coming and let us know what the dealers says.

 

[KubotaOne]

Mine is out a bit to, but 3" is alot.

You got me concerned as well. If I had to guess, I'd say my left side lifts about an inch before the right.

 

[Bird]

Looks to me like all the possibilities have been listed already, and to the best of my knowledge, it has to be one of those three things:]

(1) differential tire pressure,
(2) bent or damaged arms or brackets - could have even been done at the time it was manufactured, or
(3) mounting brackets installed wrong or slipped after installation - the manual with my loaders said to install the brackets with all the nuts and bolts, with everything sitting on a flat level surface, but to not tighten any of the nuts and bolts until all were installed.

Of course, that's if it's uneven when parked on a level surface. If it only becomes uneven when it starts to raise; i.e., one side raising quicker than the other, then I would guess there could be a problem with a hydraulic cylinder or line, although it would also seem possible to me that some of the mounting nuts and bolts could be loose.

 

[mark777]

I'm with you Bird,

I have found as much as a 1/4" discrepancy at the base of a vertical (tower) support, which is about 3 degrees at the top. If you measure the distance out to the loader bucket that can be as much as 3" on a medium sized FEL. You can also see ram spacing pins differ, as one may be centered and one may be to either side indicating something miss-aligned in the factory jig during manufacture.

Mark

 

[CTDUF]

My kubota 3130 was 1 inch out I checked all the tire pressures, they were all right on. The loader frame and whole tractor also were 1 inch out. It turned out to be the rear tires were 1 inch different in height, same mfg, same size , but they had different mold markings. the dealer replaced one tire with matching mold markings and it fixed the problem. I even accused my wife of driving into something and twisting it.

 

[Bullzibart]

Still waiting for the dealer to come and look at the problem. I did get to take some measurements the other day. Coming off the top loader arms to the top of the bucket there is a 3/4 in difference from one side to the other. There is a 1/2 inch difference on the front mount/stand and a 1/4 inch from one side to the other on the rear mounts. As I said before all the tires have the same air pressure in them. To me something is really off. Not sure if its the loader, mounts, or the tractor. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to look closer at it and find out whats up.

 

[Bullzibart]

Just got it back from the dealer and it turns out that the FEL was tweaked.. They put the bent peice in the press and made it straight again at no charge. I hope the FEL isn't made that cheap if it will get tweaked that easy.. I still don't remember hitting anything hard with it. Oh well we'll see how long it stays straight.

 

[DHennet]

Thanks for following up with an update. I'm glad it worked out for you.
What part of the loader did they have to straighten?