Using bucket as work platform.

[Soundguy]

I know you can make it with plain sucrose...? disacaride? and dextrose is? glucose? a mono sacaride right?

Soundguy

 

[N80]

Polytetrofluorocarbapentahexastenedione is a versatile compound used in confections, Russian athletes, roadside bombs, space shuttle foam and hemorrhoid creams.

Seriously, I just made it up D ) but my most recent memory of how cotton candy tasted suggested just such a compound, mixed with fine fiberglass and epoxy.

Soundguy is right, cotton candy is pure sugar.

 

[patrick_g]

AND a touch of coloring.

Pat

 

[Tom_Veatch]

Just wondering,

What is the mortality rate? Some folks must have died doing this. I'd be very interested to know why and how. You guys seem pretty flippant about the subject but where there are safety warnings there are fellow tractor owners no longer among us. I think this thread desrves a little more careful commentary and a WHOLE lot more reflection IMHO.

TomK

About 5 or so years ago, one of my fellow project engineers was using an FEL bucket as a lift to paint a water tank. We weren't particular friendly and I didn't investigate the details of the incident. So I won't try to describe the exact nature of the accident, but somehow, he fell from the bucket and died as a result of the fall.

 

[MarkV]

For those who are concerned about hydraulic failures while a FEL without check valves is raised I saw a clever way to gain some extra safety. This was at a repair shop and they had taken a piece of pipe that had enough of one side cut out to slip over the cylinder rod. If the hydraulics were to fail the pipe would work as a solid stop that would not allow the cylinder to retract. I am sure this was not completely fool poof yet it would be better than nothing if you were working under or on a raised loader.

Somewhat related question. Why do you see so many TLB’s and loaders of varies types on construction sites left for the night with the loader raised and/or the tractor raised on the stabilizers? Do they feel it makes them more theft proof or it just looks cool?

MarkV

 

[Bedlam]

Mark, I have wondered the same thing. I have seen a backhoe with the bucket in the air left for over a week. On the road side. It would seem to me to be a bit unsafe. Even if the valves didnt leak down kids could get into it and drop it on someone.My dad alwasy had me set things to "rest".
Even this day once the bucket is down , I move the levers to release any pressure.
Lets see what others feel.
Al

 

[patrick_g]

I was taught to relieve all hydraulic pressure when shutting down for the day or even lunch.

Regarding the "props" on the cylinders to keep the bucket form falling... Since so many folks who use the FEL as a work platform use it at whatever height best fits the situation, the prop would have to be adjustable to be useful. Perhaps a telescoping two piece thingy with a selection of holes to accept pins or some such. This would sure increase safety. Probably as many folks who fasten their tractor safety belts religiously would actually use the safety prop if available.

Just a few years ago an elderly gentleman (in 80's) raised his brush hog way up to clean under it and it fell on him and crushed the life out of him when the hydraulics let go. A prop or two (2x4) in the right place could have been literally a life saver.

Pat

 

[TomKioti]

About 5 or so years ago, one of my fellow project engineers was using an FEL bucket as a lift to paint a water tank. We weren't particular friendly and I didn't investigate the details of the incident. So I won't try to describe the exact nature of the accident, but somehow, he fell from the bucket and died as a result of the fall.

Kinda put's it all in perspective doesn't it? Very sad AND totally avoidable.

I don't mind being disagreed with by some here but when your talking about life and death why take chances. Some among us may now go and do this with your blessings in mind and become a statistic. I don't think that's funny or macho at all. It's just plain insanity. Also if some of you feel this topic has been threaded to death than why keep posting and making jokes. Let others that may be newer to TBN get the benefit of some of the posters who actually think safety IS important when using heavy equipment.
I'm not trying to start a flame war I just feel safety is VERY important.

 

[Soundguy]

My jd batwing mower has flip down guards like that for when you run down the street in 'transport' mode. You lift the mower, flip downt he metal guard, and then ease the mower down tot hat level and go. That way if you loose hyd pressure, cyl blows.. etc ( or you tow with a truck or other non remote capable device ) you have the mower lifted off the road.

Soundguy

For those who are concerned about hydraulic failures while a FEL without check valves is raised I saw a clever way to gain some extra safety. This was at a repair shop and they had taken a piece of pipe that had enough of one side cut out to slip over the cylinder rod. If the hydraulics were to fail the pipe would work as a solid stop that would not allow the cylinder to retract. I am sure this was not completely fool poof yet it would be better than nothing if you were working under or on a raised loader.

Somewhat related question. Why do you see so many TLB’s and loaders of varies types on construction sites left for the night with the loader raised and/or the tractor raised on the stabilizers? Do they feel it makes them more theft proof or it just looks cool?

MarkV

 

[N80]

I don't mind being disagreed with by some here but when your talking about life and death why take chances. Some among us may now go and do this with your blessings in mind and become a statistic. I don't think that's funny or macho at all. It's just plain insanity.

I'll say it again. It is all a matter of risk assessment. It is very easy to tell everyone not to do anything for any reason. Unfortunately that is the approach that corporate lawyers and tort lawyers take. And now it seems like a cultural standard. Some things, like tractors in general, have risk associated with them. The easiest thing to say is to never get on a tractor. Yes, that's silly, but its no more silly (in my opinion) than saying that a rational, experienced person using a loader as a platform under optimal circumstances is 'insane'. Or that sharing his dark secret is insanity. I think most of us here are of the mentality that people can and should act responsibly and that none of us exist for the protection and benefit of those who refuse to act responsibly.

And none of us is even going to think about not eating that big mac for lunch. Heart disease kills 300,000 a year! It just happens so often that it doesn't make a juicy headline or interesting post like some rube falling out of a tractor bucket.

And on that topic, what kind of buckets are these folks falling out of? As I've said a dozen times, mine only goes up about 10 feet. I can jump out of it with no injury. I'd have to fall right smack dab on my head to kill myself from 10 feet. I suspect in most of these injuries the bucket is crushing people rather than just them falling out.