using your tractor to pull a tree over

[Gale Hawkins]

I didn't watch the video (didn't want to use satellite metered download)

I can imagine what it was.

If you have to get the stump out.....I did it this way...dig on three sides....and push

This what works for me most of the time. If room permits I make the three digs to cut the roots then use the FEL end to push over and move out of the way until I pile them, etc.

The guy with the pulley system may have been just messing and gommin around as my father would say.

 

[4570Man]

This what works for me most of the time. If room permits I make the three digs to cut the roots then use the FEL end to push over and move out of the way until I pile them, etc.

The guy with the pulley system may have been just messing and gommin around as my father would say.

It’s amazing how me and a couple of buddies can find the least efficient way to do something almost always incorporating a piece of equipment. This is a prime example.

 

[crazyal]

A farmer near where I grew up would use dynamite to take care of beavers. He's also the reason why you can't buy it at the local hardware store anymore. Nothing funner to a 8 year old than beavers flying like a frisbee. Of course 7 sticks was just the right amount for a beaver hut in his eyes.

I usually just cut trees low and dig them out with the backhoe. Lifting it out a few times and dropping it back into the hole helps get the dirt and rocks off of it. Then I just use the loader to put it in a ravine I want to fill in that's out of the way of the house. Sometimes I'll just use the backhoe to push them over.

 

[MH8675309]

Some impressive thought went into taking the tree down that way. I personally wouldnt do it that way but it came down safely without ruining anything.

 

[two_bit_score]

Some impressive thought went into taking the tree down that way. I personally wouldnt do it that way but it came down safely without ruining anything.

Success is often measured by the absence of collateral damage or liability.

TBS

 

[check]

I would love to see a video of a stunt being blown up. Does anybody have one?

 

[k0ua]

I would love to see a video of a stunt being blown up. Does anybody have one?

Maybe this will help:

 

[CincyFlyer]

I remember my Grand dad blowing a stump; I believe he used half a stick of dynamite. He was maybe 100 yards or less from the house where I was standing and watching; the stump went at least a couple hundred feet in the air, spiraling end-over-end, and landed smack on top of the house with a VERY loud "whump". My suspicion is that he had to replace a few shingles at least.

Unless it was a tiny stump, he used more than half a stick! The stuff isn't that powerful.

 

[Lelandwelds]

We just take the Bobcat and push it about eight foot high from a couple directions, get it partway down, push it in a circle to snap roots, and push the root ball until the remaining roots give way. Between the tires and removing the actual tree, the toughest ones leave a circle of destruction about thirty feet across.

He might be on to something. Plus, he wears the nifty hard hat.

 

[two_bit_score]

I would love to see a video of a stunt being blown up. Does anybody have one?

Blow up stunts? Let’s do it.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

Unless it was a tiny stump, he used more than half a stick! The stuff isn't that powerful.

Could have been more; this was back in the 50's and my memory has probably faded some. I recall as a kid, my Dad worked in the aggregate business and they often used dynamite. He had some that had been frozen, and he said it needed to be destroyed. He stuck the individual sticks in the sand, and let me shoot them with a rifle. Not being confined, the explosions were rather unremarkable. I know that confined, they are much more impressive.

 

[sdquick]

This a very complex system and it would be difficult to calculate. But say you have a multiple sheave pulley system. You input 100# of force on the first line. That same force is transmitted to the second line as it passes over the pulley. This happens at each change in direction. Then the magic happens. Say each sheave has 3 pulleys. Each pulley is exposed to 100# of force from each line. The sheave feels the 100# x 3 so the force is multiplied. That is how a multiple pulley system works.

Now I agree that if you put a line between the pulley and the object being lifted, that line and that line alone will feel the 300# force (same as the pulley)

Orezok explained it well. Here is a diagram that explains block and tackle (pulley system). The idea (with all simple machines) is that you keep the same work (force X distance). In this case much more distance (length) for less force. These were used a lot before we could use diesel and gas to do the work!

 

[bcp]

I've always thought those common overhead lift diagrams were misleading for someone trying to figure out a horizontal pull. For example, in the diagram above, the top pulley does nothing but reverse the direction of pull. It does nothing to increase the pull. It isn't need for horizontal rigging, unless you have to pull opposite the direction you want the load to move.

Simply count the lines pulling the load. In diagram 3 above, there are three lines supporting the load, so it is a 3x increase in pull.

Bruce

 

[k0ua]

Blow up stunts? Let痴 do it.

I've seen some stunts pulled in my time but I dunno about blow up stunts... sounds a bit dangerous.

 

[two_bit_score]

I've seen some stunts pulled in my time but I dunno about blow up stunts... sounds a bit dangerous.

Maybe stunts pulling stumps?

.

 

[GLyford]

today, you need an FFL for explosives, as well as a State/Local Permit!

But wait, it gets worse...in many states now you need a hoist license to even use a backhoe!


Leaving conifer stumps in the ground is pretty easy, but hardwoods have this habit of resprouting that sometimes makes pulling/grinding them a better option.

I remember one time growing up watching a bunch of guys trying to remove a 12" stump with a chain and cabover Kenworth. They had that cab way up in the air several times and stump still didn't budge. By the time they were done they'd dug out a 20' circle anyway...

 

[4570Man]

But wait, it gets worse...in many states now you need a hoist license to even use a backhoe!


Leaving conifer stumps in the ground is pretty easy, but hardwoods have this habit of resprouting that sometimes makes pulling/grinding them a better option.

I remember one time growing up watching a bunch of guys trying to remove a 12" stump with a chain and cabover Kenworth. They had that cab way up in the air several times and stump still didn't budge. By the time they were done they'd dug out a 20' circle anyway...

I’d bet a 4x4 pickup will pull as hard or harder than a semi with no trailer in dirt. There isn’t much weight over the drive tires and the highway tires have very little traction off road.

 

[bcp]

I’d bet a 4x4 pickup will pull as hard or harder than a semi with no trailer in dirt. There isn’t much weight over the drive tires and the highway tires have very little traction off road.

Semi vs Chevy Tahoe Tug Of War (1st try) - YouTube

DURAMAX VERSUS SEMI TUG OF WAR #2 - YouTube

Bruce

 

[4570Man]

The one with the Tahoe didn’t have the second axel locked in and the Dmax had a significant amount of weight in the bed.

 

[jmc]

"Honey, my parents will be here in the morning. Please be a Dear and help me clean the house today."

"Of course, Dear, but first I have to remove that tree threatening our shed. I'll be right in afterwards."