Very Unhappy

[kenstrac]

In the spring I bought a KK II 6FT rototiller 7FT rake and a 6 FT box blade from TSC, hooked it up and did a dry run on the tiller the chain on the shield snapped and went flying after 4-5 min of use and the PTO shield was cut.The roll pin had come out of the shaft to u joint connection .Brought it down to TSC and they said they would get me a new shield,About 5 weeks went by and no shield, needed to rototill drove pin back in and used it did less than150 sq FT of garden pin is coming out again drove it back in and put hose clamp over roll pin and got it done I called KK directly and told them of the problem and they said it happens occasionally and sent me out a new PTO shaft complete in 3 days good service on KK's part and I am happy with the tiller. During this time my neighbor brings over 17 loads of horse manure mixed with shavings I spread it out with the FEL and then rake it with the Farm Force rake the manure I was raking was no more than 1 FT deep at the highest point when I got off the tractor I noticed the rake was twisted a bit and the canter tines were lower than the ends.I called TSC and the dist. mng told me that the rake was not designed for that HP of a tractor and to bring it back . Yesterday morning I hooked up the box blade and went down to a brushy area that I wanted to clean up, went over back and forth with the FEL to loosen it up most of it was 1-2 in dia and a gravel base .I then used the box blade to finish pulling up the root system after about 6-7 passes the box blade was bent up 45 deg. the top link to box blade supports were bent like pretzels.another Farm Force piece of equipment.
IMO the rake and the box blade should have a CAT 0 rating, I have had other brands of rakes and box blades in the past that were CAT 1 and used them on CAT 2&3 on 60-125 HP tractors and never had failures like this.
BTW this is being used on a DK 45 in 2WD .

 

[Spudland_Dave]

I had the same 7' Rake on my 3520 and had the rake twisted like a pretzel in 60 minutes...LITERALLY...the time stamp between the Purchase reciept and the Return reciept were less then an hour apart....

I knew they werent the best implements around, but sheesh, less then an hour of light duty use?

 

[bjr]

I'm using a JM354 (35hp) Jinma with my KK 6' rake and it's says Five Point by KingKutter on it. I have their 6' box blade the 6' professional series rear blade and 6-1/2' disc and I use their tiller tines on my tiller and all have performed very well. I will say the rake has a few tweaks or bends in the main angle iron beam, but still works fine. It's all cat 1 stuff and most of it I've used for over 5 yrs. now. If asked I'd say "Yes, I would buy it again". bjr

 

[Gittyup]

I was torn between a new boxblade from TSC and refurbishing an old GIL in pretty bad shape. I estimated that it would cost me as much to refurb the GIL as a new box from TSC. But, then when I compared the quality, I quickly realized that the GIL was way better made. While the refurb was a lot of work, I think I ended up with a boxblade that would be hard for my little tractor to tear up, and its weight will improve its effectiveness. Those light, soft things from TSC.... I don' think it would take me long to bend them up.

 

[LoneCowboy]

So, you bought the cheapest, made in china, lowest quality, lowest priced equipment around and it didn't last.

What did you expect?

Honestly, there is certainly something to value, and the most expensive item may not be the best, but you certainly weren't paying for quality and guess what? you didn't get it.

I'm not seeing the issue.

 

[FrogLick]

Since KK treated him well when he contacted them and implements that fail to perform reasonably can be returned to TSC, in that sense I agree that there isn't an issue. However it isn't unreasonable to expect a Cat 1 rated implement not to be significantly damaged within a short time especially if doing only light duty work. We're all looking for value when making purchasing decisions and I find these types of brand specific reports useful.

 

[kenstrac]

So, you bought the cheapest, made in china, lowest quality, lowest priced equipment around and it didn't last.

What did you expect?

Honestly, there is certainly something to value, and the most expensive item may not be the best, but you certainly weren't paying for quality and guess what? you didn't get it.

I'm not seeing the issue.

Well I do
I sold IFC implements Rakes ,box blades, post hole diggers, brush cutters,etc and never had a warranty issue I even rented out some of the equipment.they were a low price line. Other than looking like they were painted with a mop they worked well and they performed well above my expectations for the money spent.
The rake that I bought at TSC IS made in the USA the poor design of the rake (sectioned bottom tine holder ) is where it bent and twisted.
The box blade also made in USA back brackets should have had a brace half way down to stop it from bowing ,and as I was removing the brackets to make new ones I noticed the powder coating had a hair line crack the whole length of the square tubing on the top where the teeth come through,Now how much does it cost to put the seam in the rear so this will not happen $0

 

[lawn_king]

Farm force has not impressed folks around here (TBN)! Woods,landpride,sitrex,demco, buy it once.

 

[Shmudda]

oh....you only get what you pay for in life.....

Lesson learned!

Craig

 

[Alan L.]

I guess I have taken my Modern box blade for granted. Its done some pretty tough work with packed limestone and held up well.