VW To Resurrect the IH Scout as an Electric Vehicle.

[paulsharvey]

On the tech side I think self driving cars would be high on the list...

I mean a car anyone can go out and buy and not cost bajillion dollars and a project of NASA or the DOD.

I think what you are seeing over the past 10 years, and probably for the next 10 years, is the implementation of stuff people only considered theoretically or crazy high tech, coming to your daily life. It's not mostly new concepts, it's just scaling, and getting what was insanely expensive into every day hands.

Wife mentioned translation robots at the hospital, for non english/non Spanish speakers

 

[paulsharvey]

BTW, I'm not trying to argue that the world is better or worse, so don't take it as that. Im just arguing the 'perfect world' some people think we had, never existed.

If we could freeze and reset time; what Era are you putting us in? 1880, that's perfect for the Amish. 1930s sounds good, except the widespread starvation, and i like my AC. I do think the 1990s were a great time to grow up in, though.

We basically grew up in the time when we had the first half, zero hand held tech, no internet, and the 2nd half of our youth, we watched it morph.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'd be happy to reset to 2019...

Pre-pandemic, Pre Ukraine, Pre Gaza, Pre Inflation, Pre not having to pay rent which is still the case for unpaid rent accrued during pandemic... etc.

My city was a place people wanted to be with private money transforming entire neighborhoods and becoming a destination after decades if the opposite...

Heck we even had sell out crowds at the coliseum Warrior Games!

 

[California]

I think some of the more senior members think 24 years ago was 1960...

Heck I'm a senior and I'm appalled at how some of my cohort think ... if you can call that 'think'.

You have it right, much of what we see today already existed in less advanced form in the past. And what some here miss is that in that past, there was an expectation that the technology of the day would advance, evolve. That was one of the main things I learned in college. Expect constant evolution and change, and watch for new opportunities to appear. My 'survey of math' generalist course in 1968 emphasized that computer coding on paper forms for a professional punchcard operator to make the input cards, after a day or two, was grossly inefficient and the technology would soon evolve to direct user control of the computer. This was glaringly obvious to anyone anticipating the world they would occupy a few years after graduation.

Computers went from room size to refrigerator size to desktop before half the present US population was born. Anyone aware of transistors wasn't surprised to see pocket or wristwatch calculators as a subsequent step. Phones similar, the breakup of ATT's monopoly so you didn't have to use their 300 baud modems was a legal change that opened up the field of phones to what we have today. Anyone then could have expected that ATT's briefcase phones could eventually be replaced by pocket-calculator miniaturization.

An American device just landed successfully on the moon for the first time in 30 51 years. Most people weren't ignorant 51 years ago. Most.

Moss, thanks for the better data.

 

[MossRoad]

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An American device just landed successfully on the moon for the first time in 30 years. Most people weren't ignorant 30 years ago. Most.

30 years?

I thought it was 1972 that last time. 52 years.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm wondering if the word "Device" is the qualifier?

Man on the moon 50+ years ago?

 

[MossRoad]

Intuitive Machines' Odysseus lander touched down on the moon Thursday after a historic, nail-biting descent following a last-minute navigation sensor malfunction, becoming the first U.S.-built spacecraft to stick a moon landing in more than 50 years and the first ever by a private company.

 

[MossRoad]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/us-achieves-first-moon-landing-half-century-with-private-spacecraft-2024-02-23/

 

[MossRoad]

It was 51 years, my apologies.

 

[Oaktree]

ex: Seeing people walking around, driving, working with a cell phone in one hand would blow people away from 2000.

Why blown away? : because previous generations wouldn’t/didn’t expect a future culture do this.


ex: Search engine shows everyone is a google search (Popes of the past, George Washington, etc) as being black or dark skinned.

Why blown away? : because our culture we were all taught they were a culture of caucasian skin.

ex: gov____ment spends 25 trillion dollars in additional debt. Taking debt from 10 trillion to 34 trillion.

Why blown away? : Because the culture of people in 2000 would never have expected to have such reckless, crippling spending culture in 24 years.

Here’s a fun ex for you: Rock music is virtually gone & replaced by rap/hip-hop music 100%. NEW mainstream Rock music is completely non-existent in 2024.

Why blown away? : Because the 2000 culture would have expected rock music to carry on at least somewhat into the future, but everyone’s listening to the Doobie Brothers or Chicago or Stone Temple Pilots if they want to rock. All groups from before 2000.

Many of the culture changes you cite were in their early stages at the turn of the century...while today's search engines are much more powerful, they did exist then as did cellphones. I definitely remember people driving, walking, etc. talking (often loudly) on their flip phones back then. Likewise, it was pretty obvious looking at the music charts that hip-hop was what was happening, and rock was fading. Granted, all of these trends have accelerated this century.

Agree 100% that each generation has their own culture, often baffling to their elders. Not sure how old you are, but I know my generation's (boomer-born early 1950s) culture was quite alien to my parents, probably would have been more so to my grandparents if any had still been alive when I was a teen. Always been that way, probably always will.
We boomers swore we'd never turn into our parents, yet here we are.

 

[5030]

If we want to attack posser 'life style' people, who drive a jeep/scout/bronco, for being fake; we better watch out. Lot of folks have a tractor that aren't row cropping


Live and let live; you want a true rock climber, buy it, you want to run to the grocery store in a JD 8R, run to the store. you want to ride a bike, or drive an EV,; You do you

I'd say 95% of people on here fall into that category.

 

[California]

Ok, 51 years. I shouldn't try to post based on memory alone without researching a little. But haydude missed his opportunity to correct this! Hey bro, you ok?

 

[Oaktree]

On the tech side I think self driving cars would be high on the list...

Not that they work very well even now, but yeah that's something that would have hard to imagine not all that many years ago. Personally, I find them kind of creepy and don't think I'd ever trust one, but maybe someday they'll be mainstream.

Dont disagree that everything you mention existed but the difference is it is no longer fringe but instead codified by law...

Remember 25 years ago many things came under zero tolerance... 3 strikes, etc...

We are far from that now for many things...

My city didn't have thousands of smash and grabs or thousands of auto thefts...

Being caught with personal use Meth or Cocaine or Weed meant a trip downtown.

The most blatant in your face is people shooting up in the doorways and public parks and law enforcement taking no action or the block after block of city streets with homeless camps... shocking is the only word to describe.

In 2000 good family friends moved to New Zealand for employment and only returned to the Bay Area in 2023...

They kept saying it's a third world country seeing the camps and open drug use and yes... their rental car had the window smashed just a mile from the airport...

I have a hard time wrapping my head around that. I'll admit that I don't "get" California attitudes, and you certainly don't paint a very inviting picture of life there.

 

[California]

I'd say 95% of people on here fall into that [non row crop] category.

I bought a tractor (then a second one) to take the place of what Dad had been doing - dragging around hundreds of ft of garden hose, and hiring day labor to work with wheelbarrows.

There's no claim this is my occupation, rather, I'm enjoying being the third generation responsible for this apple orchard. Production is some 70 tons/year, with most but not all of the work done by a contractor along with his larger adjacent orchard. For me its a retirement hobby as it was for two previous generations.

I came to TBN because my US Yanmar was a mysterious orphan when I bought it, used, and already 20 years old. Yanmar had left the US so maintaining it was entirely up to the owner. First time I had been on a tractor since 1960. I learned a lot from other Yanmar owners here. In the 20 years I've now owned this, it has never needed the touch of a pro mechanic.

And I've learned a couple of new things discussed here aside from tractors, example welding.

TBN doesn't need to be limited to only commercial-scale tractor owners!

 

[Hay Dude]

Many of the culture changes you cite were in their early stages at the turn of the century...while today's search engines are much more powerful, they did exist then as did cellphones. I definitely remember people driving, walking, etc. talking (often loudly) on their flip phones back then. Likewise, it was pretty obvious looking at the music charts that hip-hop was what was happening, and rock was fading. Granted, all of these trends have accelerated this century.

Agree 100% that each generation has their own culture, often baffling to their elders. Not sure how old you are, but I know my generation's (boomer-born early 1950s) culture was quite alien to my parents, probably would have been more so to my grandparents if any had still been alive when I was a teen. Always been that way, probably always will.
We boomers swore we'd never turn into our parents, yet here we are.

I’m much younger than you

 

[DarkBlack]

Intuitive Machines' Odysseus lander touched down on the moon Thursday after a historic, nail-biting descent following a last-minute navigation sensor malfunction, becoming the first U.S.-built spacecraft to stick a moon landing in more than 50 years and the first ever by a private company.

Didn’t exactly “stick the landing “.
Caught a leg and tipped over

The 1st U.S. spacecraft to land on the moon in 50 years has ‘tipped over’ - National | Globalnews.ca

Intuitive Machines initially said the Odysseus lander was upright after touchdown Thursday, but then said the craft “caught a foot in the surface and tipped," landing on its side.

globalnews.ca

 

[sd455dan]

What year were the LA riots? They basically let them burn and loot until they got tired, and it was the "roof top koreans" that kept it from being worse.

August of 1965 "Watts"

Watts riots - Wikipedia

 

[Hay Dude]

Ok, 51 years. I shouldn't try to post based on memory alone without researching a little. But haydude missed his opportunity to correct this! Hey bro, you ok?

I’m fine, thanks. Our age differences would make me a “son” to you more than a “bro”.
I really have no desire to correct old, addled brains.

 

[California]

I really have no desire to correct old, addled brains.

From all your posts I thought that was your problem. What is it, then?

 

[paulsharvey]

"TBN doesn't need to be limited to only commercial-scale tractor owners!"

Not saying that, it was a comment about people downing the street jeeps, and grocery getter off road suvs. Basically implying people shouldn't have a 4x4 off road vehicle, if they're just pavement queens; and I was saying 95% of the people on here are about the same, just on the tractor side. IE, don't complain about street jeeps; when you just use a tractor to get the mail and take the trash cans to the street.