Walmart brand tractor fluids

[DaddyRabbit]

Have no fear, just be glad its not a gear

And this is some how not really comforting to me about the hydrostatics....

 

[Tim Stuart]

I wont get into the great debate as far as what oil better. But I will tell you what I seen with my own eyes. When I was a kid out of high school, I had went to work for Brown and Root as a pipe fitters helper. We working at bottling plant on the edge of the Houston Ship Channel the plants name at the time it was called Lubra Pack. We built a tank farm about a ½ mile from the main bottling building. The tank farm was close to the ship channel so barges could bring in the oil. We ran several 12” pipes from the tank farm to the building with pumps stationed at the tank farm to suck the oil out of the tanks and pump the ½ mile to the main building. The main building housed the two bottling assemble lines. I worked on this project for 18 months until 2 weeks after facilities started up. I watch the quart oil bottles fly down the line at such speeds that the line looked like one solid streak of color. It would run a couple hours of black bottles that it would switch to yellow bottles, than white bottles with green lettering. The line never stopped when the bottles would change colors. There was no way they could have changed the oil coming from the tanks fast enough when the bottle colors changed. There was ½ mile oil in the pipes. I asked the plant supervisor at the time what was up with it and he said 99% of the oil on the market at the time was the same oil. He said the only difference would be a drop of additives that they would put in the bottles just before capping the bottle off.

From that day on Oil is Oil! I by what ever I can get my hands on at a reasonable price. I have run Wal-Mart in just about ever thing I own.

 

[art]

Interesting story on the oil production. There is a ppe line that runs next to the NYS thruway and I forget the size but they pump fuels and oils through this pipe and it is filled all the time!

It just makes you wonder as to how much gas is in the diesel tanks? Is the mixed fuel in the bottom of the tanks cheaper and is what you buy in the discount places?

Working with the amount of engines that we do and of all sizes and makes I can tell you of some differences. When I run better grades of oils I don't change it as often, a past dodge gas of all things I ran a 1/4 million miles on 5000 mile oil changes. For me at the speed and the load it was using a quart between changes. It went to a fellow that drove to Atlanta weekly and he drove the speed limit and it didn't use any oil but plenty of gas. That was a half ton two wheel drive club cab and it towed loads regularly with some around 10,000lbs or more.
Comparing to a 3500 mile change I'd say at three oil changes for you to two at five thousand mile change. I would like to fish more so I'd like the quality time not oil changing time. Cost difference three changes at eight dollars vs two changes at twelve. I like fishing!

I read some where that to equate a way to rate engine oils is that a car or many of our lighter utility vehichle engines run at aproximately 1/4 load, 1/4 throttle.
Over the road trucks run at about 1/3 throttle 1/3 load as an average of there life.
The way that farm tractors are used is normally at full throttle full load!!!

Just think about this kids, lets just hook the rear of your favorite ride to a load that might make it need to run with your foot to the floor board at full throttle and really laboring for a couple of hours or so nearly non-stop!!!!!
Could you imagine being able to take a full throttle ride in your car for an hour or too!!!! Autobahn here we come! **** electronic govenors!

There are differences in oils and I'll pay for the extra drop for true quality!

For the year or two I've been around I've noticed that no matter what was considered the best for everyone, still isn't good enough for all!

 

[Kubotasrking]

I'd doubt it!!!!!!!! I know Valvoline bottles NAPA oil but yet not the same!!!!!! Great sales ploy!!! Kioti is building Kubota tractors too!!!! The list goes on!!!! Got you!!!!!!

uh...as a manufacturing plant guy....uh...you got got.

 

[Kubotasrking]

QUOTE]I can personally attest to the fact that using walmart oil in your tractor does not make is detonate.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like someone got got.

 

[Soundguy]

Huh.. how about posting more than 4 words so that your posts are intelligible. Your last 2 posts add no more to this thread than my house cat setting over by the door cleaning his backside... what is the point you were trying to make with that / those last 2 posts?.. if your not going to explain with more than 4 words.. please.. don't bother...

soundguy

 

[HomeBrew2]

I guess most would easily blow my comments off as those from a simple-minded half-drunk idiot but, Skypups comments seem very clear to me. My interpretation of his point and relationship w/ the FDA is in "absolute" terms. For all intents and purposes, the FDA cannot tolerate ANY controllable possibility of bootlegged substances.

The average man's relationship w/, in this case, prescription drugs, is in the relm of "averages". I gained from his comments, on average, an average man "should" feel confident buying from a reputable US retailer, as we are doing the best we can as a nation to provide a genuine article.

If the average man has the resources to effect a controlled acquisition process as the FDA, more power to them. As for me, I'm just an average guy and hope for the best from high profile US vendors.

I liken this scenerio to a concealed carry permit. Idiots (definately not me in this case) and C'boys will push the envelope and purposfully, or at least knowing better, put themselves in a situation or envirionment that would MOST LIKELY require the use of their firearm. ... an average man (CC holder) would never put themselves in such a situation. Expanded further, the average man, without CC permit or, even without weapon at all would not be so reckless either. In terms of "absolute", those in the business/lifestyle of defence/self-defence/protection MAY "have" to put themselves in such a dangerous situation.

Oops, my hotdogs are done ... no more time to play in electronland

Well.. you may have no faith in my opinion .. however.. Past what I have posted then.. there is virtually NO way for a consumer to know the real origin of the meds he buys from a real pharmacy if I interpret your message correctly.

Thusly.. worrying about meds form a fireign co.. and chastizing someone for not buying from an american company is a QUITE MOOT POINT if we ( the consumer, the FDA, the pharmacy, the distribuitor ) have -0- knowledge of origin.. or control over such.... so why even bring it up ??? What was the point ??

Kinda like being on a crashing airplane and the guy in the seat next you you asks you if you want peanuts or chewing gum before you crash.. after you tell him which you want he then says he has neither... IE.. what was the point of him asking ???

It's issues just like this that make it so that i have to click "view this post" on some peoples message headers and not others..... .........


Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

I don't see how this clarifies anything. My point is basically that many o fthe meds for sale in or pharmacies are made by non US drug companies ( big name non us drug companies ). Skypup 's comments would basically have us believe that no drug manufactured outside US borders is worth a darn and gives some defacto false sense of security that anything made inthe us is probably of higher quality than from another source. Both points are highly unlikely to be true in every occasion. And.. even if they were... what's joe average citizen going to do.. you walk into walgreens. buy your aspirin bottle and then what.. send it off for testing?

As for the gun analogy.. uh.. I don't see an analogy there.. I see you talking about a guy with a ccw that goes out looking for trouble.. vs one not looking for trouble... I'm not sure what message that is trying to convey on a discussion about domestif or imported medications and fda testing and control...??

Soundguy

I guess most would easily blow my comments off as those from a simple-minded half-drunk idiot but, Skypups comments seem very clear to me. My interpretation of his point and relationship w/ the FDA is in "absolute" terms. For all intents and purposes, the FDA cannot tolerate ANY controllable possibility of bootlegged substances.

The average man's relationship w/, in this case, prescription drugs, is in the relm of "averages". I gained from his comments, on average, an average man "should" feel confident buying from a reputable US retailer, as we are doing the best we can as a nation to provide a genuine article.

If the average man has the resources to effect a controlled acquisition process as the FDA, more power to them. As for me, I'm just an average guy and hope for the best from high profile US vendors.

I liken this scenerio to a concealed carry permit. Idiots (definately not me in this case) and C'boys will push the envelope and purposfully, or at least knowing better, put themselves in a situation or envirionment that would MOST LIKELY require the use of their firearm. ... an average man (CC holder) would never put themselves in such a situation. Expanded further, the average man, without CC permit or, even without weapon at all would not be so reckless either. In terms of "absolute", those in the business/lifestyle of defence/self-defence/protection MAY "have" to put themselves in such a dangerous situation.

Oops, my hotdogs are done ... no more time to play in electronland

 

[joerocker]

The sad state of affairs is...you can't REALLY trust ANYTHING anymore!

Look at the news, it seems weekly that reports come in about this or that being tainted with chemicals not intended to EVER be included in things, ARE in these things. Hopefully it's isolated occurrences...and hopefully they will continue to be...

There was pet food that escalated into a bunch of animal feeds. The latest is antifreeze in something in the northeast states...I don't remember off hand what it was...

The point is, as soundguy said, "joe user" can't be sure of anything he buys and as long as he gets it from a "real store" he's doing all he can to get a decent reputable product. Be it meds or oil or gasoline, it's all SUPPOSED to be meeting certain standards. You can't test everything...unless you want to buy your own gas chromatograph...

 

[SkyPup]

Counterfeit name branding on products is BIG BUSINESS, Soundguy, don't be so naive.

Want to buy a Rolex or a diamond or some chemotherapy drugs for your cancer? Better get it from a known good source.....

Good luck with your foreign generics though....


BTW, the latest is poisionous antifreeze (ehtylene glycol) in imported toothpaste.....and I've got six chromatography machines!