Want to see yet another pole building?

SteelDust · Jun 2, 2008

QRTRHRS said:
SteelDust, the project is looking good. You know, you could probably build ten barns and you would still say the same thing.

Having some free time lately, I went back and read through this entire post. About the only big thing that pops out is this. When I am gearing up for something big, I like to take a tool inventory to justify adding something new. In this case, a dedicated air nailer for the joist hangers comes to mind. Of course it is easy for me to spend your money.

I have to agree with you 100%. Next time I am hanging that many joists it will be with an air nailer. I made several tool purchases or upgrades, I though about that one, but it didn't make the cut. In hindsight, it should have.

landman · Jun 5, 2008

Ive tried to nail metal hangers with a my porter cable full round nailer and have had mixed results. Sometimes the nail does not shoot strait in, and one in a while if the angle is not right it just shoots off to the side, not into the wood at all. Very dangerous for someone below or next to you when nailing. Its hard to line up the holes that are in the hangers with the tip of the nail gun.

cowpen · Jun 5, 2008

A palm nailer works great for attaching hangers and clips. I got this one on sale from Harbor Freight for about 25 bucks. Quick work and no busted thumbs!

You need to wear earplugs with these things. My nearest neighbor lives about 1/4 mile down the road. He called me while I was working on the barn last weekend and wanted to know if he could come over and shoot my "machine gun". He changed his mind after I told him what I was really doing.

SteelDust · Jun 5, 2008

landman said:
Ive tried to nail metal hangers with a my porter cable full round nailer and have had mixed results. Sometimes the nail does not shoot strait in, and one in a while if the angle is not right it just shoots off to the side, not into the wood at all. Very dangerous for someone below or next to you when nailing. Its hard to line up the holes that are in the hangers with the tip of the nail gun.

I have a variety of air nailers, ranging from a Hitachi full head framing nailer down to a Bostich brad nailer. As cowpen mentioned above, a palm nailer is perfect for driving the joist hanger nails. But, that's one that I didn't have. I guarantee the next project that involves that many joist hangers will prompt the purchase of one. They're also great for getting in areas that the head of the framing nailer is too big to fit into, and when there is no room to get a full swing on a hammer.

QRTRHRS · Jun 5, 2008

landman said:
Ive tried to nail metal hangers with a my porter cable full round nailer and have had mixed results. Sometimes the nail does not shoot strait in, and one in a while if the angle is not right it just shoots off to the side, not into the wood at all. Very dangerous for someone below or next to you when nailing. Its hard to line up the holes that are in the hangers with the tip of the nail gun.

At least one company that I know of makes a dedicated nailer. The tip of the nail protrudes so you just place it in a hole and pull the trigger. No guess work involved.

I had forgotten about the palm nailers. Those would be a reasonable alternative for a one time job.

landman · Jun 10, 2008

I started to level off the pad for my project, so far 84 yards of 6"- gravel fill, and still not level. Looks like another 48 yards will do. My driveway heads down hill some, so now i have to change the orientation of the garage to the driveway to compensate for this. Will have some pics soon.

SteelDust · Jun 22, 2008

Quick update for those following...

Got all the metal on, it sure was nice having the OSB underneath and not having to worry about where I stepped. I have most of the gable trim on, only one side unfinished. Have a few more screws to drive here and there, but for the most part the roof is complete, and not a day to soon. I have the lumber list for the framing roughed out, and will probably pick that up this week or next weekend. I hope to start on that in the next few weekends.

View looking east...

Looking South...

Looking west, showing the relation to my other building...

em14 · Jun 23, 2008

Steel Dust - That is one very nice "Barn" ... well done!
Leo

EddieWalker · Jun 23, 2008

SteelDust said:
...Got all the metal on, it sure was nice having the OSB underneath and not having to worry about where I stepped.

I know that some manufacturers specify using OSB or decking under their metal roofing, but it's pretty rare and only on certain types of panels. What type of roof panel are you using?

The one concern about using decking under metal is condensation. There needs to be a water proof layer between the metal and the wood. Most often, I've seen regular roofing felt paper used for this.

The roof looks like R panles, which are normally sealed at the ends to keep out bugs and moisture, but with decking underneith and the condensation issue, I wonder if you can seal the ends up? Getting the water out and not having it trapped would be impossible with the ends sealed up.

I put my purlins on 4 ft centers, and once screwed into the wood, are very stable to walk on. The profile of the metal creates allot of strengh and can easily support a person walking on it once attached. With one panel in place, I can walk and work from the top of it while doing the next panel.

The barn looks really nice. I like the design and use fo the second story. Very cool.

Eddie