welding question

[Sully2]

I wouldn't buy a big MIG....I have stick welders and know how to use them.
If I'm building something like a tow hook...I FORGE weld em.
Didn't they teach you why some applications are better done with AC?

But thats YOU...has nothing to do with which process might be "better"....might be easier to learn to do properly..or any direct relative info at all.....its simply YOUR PREFERENCE....nothing more

 

[Sully2]

This one brought me out of looking!

If you gotta ask then go get some schooling!!!

Me I have a Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC and a Miller 210w/spool gun ,dual tanks and I spend far more time on the 210. Actually I just finished for the evening on a project.

TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!! the 210's welds are every bit as strong as the stick. faster ,cleaner and far easier!

Now I will agree with the little harbor freight statement. I have owned 115 units and they have a use. But not for penetration when super strength is needed.
But I welded hooks on my FEL with a century 115v unit and they are still holding. Would I do it now ? NO!

Sully2 is speaking the truth so far!!!!

And you bought a Lincoln AC225 tombstone for $85 bucks.......price them now!
around $250 or more now new.
Good welders ..been around a long time ...........but my recommendation is like Sully2's .............spend the extra and get the AC/DC!

The truth is YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!!!!!

Amen!!

 

[bobodu]

Been through his threads dozens of times on ten different forums and it always ends the same way!!! LOL
1.Guy asks about welding heavy material.
2.Several guys tell him stick penetrates better.
3.The rest of the thread fills with guys that have made an Abrams M1A1 with a Harbor Freight 140 MIG.
LOL!!!
If you know what you're doing,either could work.
If ya gotta ask...go with stick. LOL!!!

I just got done using the Hobart 210 at the plant....it stinks!!! I miss the Lincoln....

 

[wedge40]

The funny part about this thread is I'm not really ever suppose to weld. At least that's what to doc said. I was curious because I was having a BH ripper tooth made.. The guy doing it had a really nice Mig (I believe 220 amps). This was his first stab at welding anything 1" thick. He said it was learning curve but it's done and I get to go pick it up today. I'll post pic's in my other thread of what it looks like. Once it gets warm I'll post photos of it in action too.

Wedge

 

[patrick_g]

Been through his threads dozens of times on ten different forums and it always ends the same way!!! LOL
1.Guy asks about welding heavy material.
2.Several guys tell him stick penetrates better.
3.The rest of the thread fills with guys that have made an Abrams M1A1 with a Harbor Freight 140 MIG.
LOL!!!
If you know what you're doing,either could work.
If ya gotta ask...go with stick. LOL!!!

I just got done using the Hobart 210 at the plant....it stinks!!! I miss the Lincoln....

So very very right! All welding processes have their good and bad points and idiosyncrasies that might be called either good, bad, or indifferent depending on your ability.

To the man who only has a hammer, every job looks like a nail!

I do a little with AC and DC stick and a little with flux core wire MIG. NOT EXPERT!!! Did a little TIG while doing developmental work on a portable battery operated welder that did stick and TIG. Never did successfully TIG aluminum (shows my level of capability.)

I managed to get a few good aluminum welds at home with flux coated rods using the good ole Lincoln AC/DC tombstone.

What really matters is not so much the input side of welding; the machine, materials, clamps art on the helmet, brand of leathers, etc. What matters is the results. If you get the right results then by definition you did it the RIGHT way. All processes that result in correct results are alternate correct processes.

All that is left for argument is my way is better than yours because it is my way, the way grand dad did it, I took a course, it is cheaper, it looks prettier, I breathe less fumes, I make more (or less) sparks, it keeps the electric bill down, it saves me time, I don't have to grind and or chip so much, or ...

Pat

 

[RancherSam]

i can't remember the last time I did AC on stick. I'm doing mostly DCEP on stick. I have a Mig that I hardly every use it's always parked in the hangar Mostly I'm doing stuff outside so MIG isn't applicable. I stick with 6010 and 7018. 7018 for stuff that must hold, and 6010 for all other as well as root passes.

 

[Sully2]

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I just got done using the Hobart 210 at the plant....it stinks!!! I miss the Lincoln....

Directly opposite opinion to thousands of users that have purchased the HH210 unit. Sounds to me like you need SERIOUS instruction in how to use a wire fed welder!

 

[wushaw]

Directly opposite opinion to thousands of users that have purchased the HH210 unit. Sounds to me like you need SERIOUS instruction in how to use a wire fed welder!

He must have been talking about the fumes

 

[bobodu]

Tell ya what ...I wouldn't trade my experience since 1978 with MIG and SMAW for your 8 weeks of classes,and maybe after ten years in industrial maintenance you can show me some of your fancy 21st century tricks. In turn,if I can still swing a big hammer,I'll teach you some 14th century forge welding tricks.LOL

 

[bones1]

The funny part about this thread is I'm not really ever suppose to weld. At least that's what to doc said. I was curious because I was having a BH ripper tooth made.. The guy doing it had a really nice Mig (I believe 220 amps). This was his first stab at welding anything 1" thick. He said it was learning curve but it's done and I get to go pick it up today. I'll post pic's in my other thread of what it looks like. Once it gets warm I'll post photos of it in action too.

Wedge

Wedge, If I may ask, why would a doc tell you not to weld?.