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Forgeblast, glad you got your water back. Being without water is a major PIA for sure, especially for the little lady of the house--and when she ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy. :laughing:
If you got 11 years out of that pump you did just fine. People tend to average about 10 years of pump life where I live. $800-$1000 every 10 years to pull/replace a pump is still a heck of a lot better than paying the city $50 a month for water.
If you live in a lightning-prone area, heavy duty surge suppressors can also save you a lot of money. People around here (including me) have lost perfectly good pumps (and refrigerators, freezers, etc.) to nearby tree and ground strikes. After several lessons learned, I probably now have more power conditioners, surge suppressors, and battery backups in my house than anyone I know, and most problems of that nature are finally history.
If you got 11 years out of that pump you did just fine. People tend to average about 10 years of pump life where I live. $800-$1000 every 10 years to pull/replace a pump is still a heck of a lot better than paying the city $50 a month for water.
If you live in a lightning-prone area, heavy duty surge suppressors can also save you a lot of money. People around here (including me) have lost perfectly good pumps (and refrigerators, freezers, etc.) to nearby tree and ground strikes. After several lessons learned, I probably now have more power conditioners, surge suppressors, and battery backups in my house than anyone I know, and most problems of that nature are finally history.
flyingcow
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Go to Bison Hand Water Pumps
These are a nice unit if you're looking for hand pumps. Will hook into existing piping.
These are a nice unit if you're looking for hand pumps. Will hook into existing piping.
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forgeblast
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Thank you all I apprecaite the info and will be looking into sams, and the pumps.
Our well pump was replaced in 99 due to a lighting strike. What do you do to protect your house? a whole house surge protector?
Yes the water issue was rough on the wife and 2yo...thank fully our friends live one town over and just had their shower redone......just in time for us to use it.
Our well pump was replaced in 99 due to a lighting strike. What do you do to protect your house? a whole house surge protector?
Yes the water issue was rough on the wife and 2yo...thank fully our friends live one town over and just had their shower redone......just in time for us to use it.
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2-wire 240VAC surge suppressors are not cheap, but they are a LOT cheaper than a pump. Grainger carries several, as do many other, I'm sure. Here are a couple:
Surge Suppressor, 240V, 20A, 2 Wire, 1 Pole - Surge Protection Devices - Voltage Regulation - Electrical : Grainger Industrial Supply
Surge Arrestor 1 Phase - Surge Protection Devices - Voltage Regulation - Electrical : Grainger Industrial Supply
For 120V compressor-equipped stuff such as refrigerators and freezers, I use a stout power conditioning/voltage regulator unit instead of simple surge suppressors, because they help out a lot during "brown-out" conditions for which a suppressor does nothing, as well as providing spike/surge protection. However, for most household things, a simple suppressor will work just fine.
I have no experience with the local power company's "whole house" suppressor units--which they want to install and rent to you forever by the month.
$ invested in stuff like this can be repaid many times over with just one nearby lightning strike.
Surge Suppressor, 240V, 20A, 2 Wire, 1 Pole - Surge Protection Devices - Voltage Regulation - Electrical : Grainger Industrial Supply
Surge Arrestor 1 Phase - Surge Protection Devices - Voltage Regulation - Electrical : Grainger Industrial Supply
For 120V compressor-equipped stuff such as refrigerators and freezers, I use a stout power conditioning/voltage regulator unit instead of simple surge suppressors, because they help out a lot during "brown-out" conditions for which a suppressor does nothing, as well as providing spike/surge protection. However, for most household things, a simple suppressor will work just fine.
I have no experience with the local power company's "whole house" suppressor units--which they want to install and rent to you forever by the month.
$ invested in stuff like this can be repaid many times over with just one nearby lightning strike.
Sorry I saw this post late. My pump went out a few years ago, dead short, I called the man I bought the pump from and told him that I thought my pump was bad. He told that he has never had one any problems from these pumps and was sure it was a chaffed wire. He told me how to pull the pump and asked that not tell anyone how to do this, but since I don't believe he will loose any money from telling you I will.
Place a 55 gallon drum on its side against the well casing and hold it tight with a couple of T post.
Tie the poly pipe to a 4 wheeler and pull slow.
My pump is about 225' down and it worked perfect, no problems. I replaced the wire and the problem was fixed.
Scott
Place a 55 gallon drum on its side against the well casing and hold it tight with a couple of T post.
Tie the poly pipe to a 4 wheeler and pull slow.
My pump is about 225' down and it worked perfect, no problems. I replaced the wire and the problem was fixed.
Scott
Egon
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What caused the wire to fail?
Egon
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You can get spacers for the tubing so the wire will not rub on the casing.
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Place a 55 gallon drum on its side against the well casing and hold it tight with a couple of T post.
Tie the poly pipe to a 4 wheeler and pull slow.
My pump is about 225' down and it worked perfect, no problems. I replaced the wire and the problem was fixed
Scott,
Great idea and good for those of us that have a tractor or unit to pull. The drum or roller (I am thinking my lawn roller) would work very well to keep the pipe from chafing. Depends on the height of the steel casing above ground (mine is 24") but a little bit of on site "engineering" would solve this - great idea - thanks for sharing. Our well is 400' and the pump is at 380' so not one that you can pull by hand..
Carl
Tie the poly pipe to a 4 wheeler and pull slow.
My pump is about 225' down and it worked perfect, no problems. I replaced the wire and the problem was fixed
Scott,
Great idea and good for those of us that have a tractor or unit to pull. The drum or roller (I am thinking my lawn roller) would work very well to keep the pipe from chafing. Depends on the height of the steel casing above ground (mine is 24") but a little bit of on site "engineering" would solve this - great idea - thanks for sharing. Our well is 400' and the pump is at 380' so not one that you can pull by hand..
Carl
Yes anything with a large radius to stop the tubing from kinking will work.
My well driller is a good man, he even gave me 250 feet of new wire.
After I pulled mine I took it to his shop and he ran it under a load and said all is good, all of this on a weekend.
Guess he needs to be on my Christmas list.
Scott
My well driller is a good man, he even gave me 250 feet of new wire.
After I pulled mine I took it to his shop and he ran it under a load and said all is good, all of this on a weekend.
Guess he needs to be on my Christmas list.
Scott
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forgeblast
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Update. Recieved the bill on friday. needed one new 7gpm 3/4 hp goulds pump fitting, labor etc. about 1500.00. Ouch, but the water pressure is better then it has ever been and i didnt need to move the carport.
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forgeblast
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I agree, if you figure we have been in the house almost 10 years, the pump lasted 11 then its less then 150 a year for water. I can handle that, then again its easier making payments then on lump sum lol.
Did they replace the pressure tank and stuff for that?seems high,if not,,mine was 130 ft down,buried well head,[I dug it out],they pulled and replaced with 3/4 hp goulds pump,hooked it all back up plus a little more for 800 plus bucks.
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forgeblast
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No i replaced the pressure tank and switch myself. The pump was 1k, and labor was about 300 for 4 hours, add the little bits and pieces (bushings, adapters, clamps, cable package and chlorinate the wells) and its about 1527.34
GOULDS 0.75 HP 7 GPM {CLICK HERE}
just saw hes selling it for 860 plus shipping.
That being said, i have used these guys before and the customer service and dependibilty on their warrenty coverage more then makes up for the couple hundred extra. (would i like it for less, heck ya)
GOULDS 0.75 HP 7 GPM {CLICK HERE}
just saw hes selling it for 860 plus shipping.
That being said, i have used these guys before and the customer service and dependibilty on their warrenty coverage more then makes up for the couple hundred extra. (would i like it for less, heck ya)
Well,I got the same pump and the extra stuff like you,and it cost me 800 plus bucks,about 2 months ago,,just saying they made way more than my guys did,[who do this for a living],did.
When I needed a new pump in an old well I had,I let my figers do the walking as they say,guys who did my other well did not call me back,so,,went searching,not many to chose from here,,three of the 4-5 I called did call me back,,one wanted 1,500 or more,said his stuff was the best,etc,and that was as low as he could go,,next person called me back,said about 1,500,after talking to him for 2 min,,price went down to 1,000-1,1000,,,next people who call,do this basicly for a living[others were plumpers and water conditioner type people also],,he said about 7 hundred,,I said sold,,he said I was number 20 on his list,,two weeks later,,he has it in and working in about 2 hours or less,,charged me 150 labor I think,him and his buddy,,little extra and I bought some fittings,bill came to 850 about...
Now,I have another well,and could wait 2-4 weeks,,so,,,just saying some of these people want 300 400 dollars an hour,for doing basicly manual labor,,because they know they can,,cause you got to have water,,and that ain't an ethical way to do any bussiness,,[welders with 40,000 dollar rigs don't charge near that much,people who do dozer work don't charge near that much],for example,,,also,they bought that pump for a good bit less than you or I could..
When I needed a new pump in an old well I had,I let my figers do the walking as they say,guys who did my other well did not call me back,so,,went searching,not many to chose from here,,three of the 4-5 I called did call me back,,one wanted 1,500 or more,said his stuff was the best,etc,and that was as low as he could go,,next person called me back,said about 1,500,after talking to him for 2 min,,price went down to 1,000-1,1000,,,next people who call,do this basicly for a living[others were plumpers and water conditioner type people also],,he said about 7 hundred,,I said sold,,he said I was number 20 on his list,,two weeks later,,he has it in and working in about 2 hours or less,,charged me 150 labor I think,him and his buddy,,little extra and I bought some fittings,bill came to 850 about...
Now,I have another well,and could wait 2-4 weeks,,so,,,just saying some of these people want 300 400 dollars an hour,for doing basicly manual labor,,because they know they can,,cause you got to have water,,and that ain't an ethical way to do any bussiness,,[welders with 40,000 dollar rigs don't charge near that much,people who do dozer work don't charge near that much],for example,,,also,they bought that pump for a good bit less than you or I could..
