Jerry, you guys started with that great modern stuff. My first "computer" was a Radio Shack color computer, 32k memory (they had just upgraded from the 16k model), 13" TV for a monitor, cassette recorder for storage, and a 4 pen color printer that printed on a roll of 4.5" wide paper. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif And I still don't understand these machines. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif