what on earth does electricity cost near you?

LD1 · Oct 18, 2016

Reload5 said:
Maybe a bit off topic here but it's worth sharing: Got a quote just today for running 200amp secondary service underground from the meter/rack out to the proposed house site which is at 458'...for $29,500.00 plus another $5,400.00 for the trenching / backfill portion. :thumbdown:

WHY was the quote so much?

Something is a little fishy here. You say that the $35k quote is just to put some cable in the ground and tie to a meter that is already there???

500mcm aluminum URD is ~$5/ft

Guys in the business that I know around here.....charge ~$2/ft to trench in power lines 24" down.

So you should have about $1000 in trenching, and ~$2500 in wire. Where is the other $30k coming from?

check · Oct 18, 2016

Reload5 said:
Maybe a bit off topic here but it's worth sharing: Got a quote just today for running 200amp secondary service underground from the meter/rack out to the proposed house site which is at 458'...for $29,500.00 plus another $5,400.00 for the trenching / backfill portion. :thumbdown:

Where exactly do you live? I will trailer my tractor down and do it for half that, and even give you a Blue Jays t-shirt and ball cap to boot! (Seems I most likely won't be needing them any more this year - LOL!)

LD1 · Oct 18, 2016

check said:
Where exactly do you live? I will trailer my tractor down and do it for half that, and even give you a Blue Jays t-shirt and ball cap to boot! (Seems I most likely won't be needing them any more this year - LOL!)

Kinda what I was thinking. Only it would be more cost effective to just drive my saturn down there to Texas, and rent a trencher once their, vs hauling my equipment 1000+ miles

3930dave · Dec 18, 2016

Holidays are coming up, so time to look at Where We've Been:

Ontario hydro bills to rise 42% in 5 years | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

Where We are Going: Taxes on Taxes, kicking in Jan 01/17.

Carbon price chaos | Goldstein | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

And, the consequences to some people of "leaders" vanity projects and social engineering:

Sky high energy prices will hurt people this winter | Furey | Columnists | Opini

Aside from my usual whingeing on this subject, my point for the holidays relates to the last link..... if you have some spare wood (even lower burn grade stuff) you are clearing, check around, there may be somebody nearby who is in desperate need. The program in Haliburton north of me sounds oversubscribed.

Rgds, D.

k0ua · Dec 18, 2016

It’s hard to believe it’s come to this. It didn’t have to be this way. Ontario government policies, many of them part of the ideologically driven green energy push, have significantly increased the costs of energy for people and businesses all across the province.

Isn't that great? The green energy push.. Yes you should remember the "greens" when you vote next time.. Aren't "greens" great? They are such kind, compassionate caring people too, always looking out for mother earth.

ultrarunner · Dec 18, 2016

Now that my California Utility has reached a 5% solar saturation point new fees and rates kick in to offset some of the lure...

At 360 kWh per month average year round I've never felt the need to go solar but it might be shortsighted looking back.

buickanddeere · Dec 18, 2016

The plan here is to install 2-3 KW of solar and a grid tie inverter to supply the AC and pool pump. Should be enough to net zero draw from mid morning until mid afternoon while the utility charges the highest priced rates .
Mid day demand spring and fall will use less than a Kw per hour which will make the system over sized . Although installing a 48VDC tank water heater in series prior to the existing heater is an option to use that surplus generation.
Of course winter days are so short and dark for three months that solar panels just make snow drifts instead of electricity .

George2615 · Dec 18, 2016

Here, and I think elsewhere in the country the electric company allows us to buy our electric from one of many suppliers that may be in our area. The biggest problem is we still have to pay the original power company the delivery service cost because they own all the poles and lines and bring the power to the house. The delivery service cost is almost double the cost of the electric.
So my last bill was as follows:

Electric supply $34.22 for 888 KWH for 28 days.
Delivery service $63.35 for 888 KWH.
Total $97.57

LD1 · Dec 18, 2016

George2615 said:
Here, and I think elsewhere in the country the electric company allows us to buy our electric from one of many suppliers that may be in our area. The biggest problem is we still have to pay the original power company the delivery service cost because they own all the poles and lines and bring the power to the house. The delivery service cost is almost double the cost of the electric.
So my last bill was as follows:

Electric supply $34.22 for 888 KWH for 28 days.
Delivery service $63.35 for 888 KWH.
Total $97.57

Total of about 9.65 cents per kwh.

And only a 31.7kwh per day usage, in december, in NY. Gas heat???

Your rates are less than mine, total I pay ~12-12.5 cents per kwh. And Spring/fall usage with no HVAC running is the only time of year I see ~30 kwh per day average. About 4 of the last 5 days we have saw single digits, and I'd ~70-80 kwh per day with the geothermal.