what on earth does electricity cost near you?

   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #841  
A fireplace will suck more heat out of your house than it will put in. Have you ever heated with wood? There's much work involved. Cutting, splitting, hauling, lifting several times.
Yep, for heat a fireplace is next to worthless. We have an insert that does a creditable job of heating the house. If I want to look at flames, I just leave the insert doors open. You need power to the fireplace to get the circulation fan running, which really improves the efficiency of the insert.
 
   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #842  
Looking at the final number on your bill is misleading, if you're doing comparisons. Even dividing the total of the bill by your kwh used is misleading in most places. There are going to be flat fees, no matter how much you use. Say you have a flat fee of $10, and your electricity cost $0.10 per kwh. If you only use one kwh during the month, your bill is $10.10, making it look like you're paying over $10 for every kwh. But, if you use 1,000kwh, your bill is $110 or $0.11 per kwh. In reality, your electricity cost the exact same, but the flat fees are skewing the numbers. There's also some places that charge more depending on the time of year and/or the time of day. A while back, I tracked down all the different components that determined how much I would pay, and it was very complicated. I had to read through probably 20 different legalese type contract documents to put together all the different things. In the end, you have to pay everything, so it may not really matter. But if you're trying to understand what you're paying and compare it to other people, in terms of kwh costs, you should factor these things in. This also makes it appear that your electricity rates are increasing if you start conserving electricity (use fewer kwh, so the flat fees start impacting the apparent per kwh cost).

My "average" cost, just dividing bill by usage, ranges from $0.0093 to $0.012 (EDIT: That should be "ranges from $0.093 to $0.12"), depending on how much i use. This last bill was unexpectedly high usage (60% more kwh used than same period last year), so I'm currently trying to track down if I have a malfunctioning piece of equipment. This is in southeast va. While we did have a couple cold snaps, the average temp is not that different than it was last year.

Keep in mind that prices aren't static. What you pay when you move in will go up over time, especially if the provider is using a generation technique frowned on by the govt (ie, coal). If you're concerned, you might want to call the Scottish Power phone number to inquire about potential future increases. There's a coal-fired plant about 1/2 a mile from me that is going to shut down in a few years due to EPA regulations. Think electricity demand is going to decrease before that shutdown? pfft. they're still planting subdivisions and mixed used developments in this area. Each persons usage is going up, and they're bringing in more people. The power company is going to have to upgrade other nearby plants and their distribution, causing my costs to go up.

If you really want to control your costs, control your usage and look into solar. Dependent on where you are and how fancy you get, the break even time frame for a grid tied solar setup may only be a few years - less if you can use tax breaks (state, federal, and others).

Keith
A $230 electric bill for a 900-square-foot apartment is on the higher side, especially if you previously paid around $80. Electric heating and water heaters can be energy-intensive, particularly in colder months. When buying a house, energy costs can vary depending on the climate, home size, insulation, and your heating system. A combination of heating methods, including firewood, can help reduce reliance on electricity. For heating a garage and working in cold temperatures, a wood stove is a good option, as long as it's properly vented and installed.
 
   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #843  
For heating a garage and working in cold temperatures, a wood stove is a good option, as long as it's properly vented and installed.

As long as there is firewood available! Where I live, not too many trees. For years I drove to Oregon - round trip ~ 500 miles - to pick up loads of firewood. Then that source dried up too so I had to go to a pellet stove.

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   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #844  
Here we can’t give it away… oak which burns hot with very little ash..

I think part of the reason the woods are not clean like before when wood was in demand.

When an oak toppled all dad had to do was put the word out and guys would be there cutting and hauling…

The prohibition on new wood stoves and the burn bans in winter sealed its fate.
 
   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #845  
The prohibition on new wood stoves and the burn bans in winter sealed its fate.

And then came the prohibition on gas stoves and gas water heaters....all to make us dependent solely on electrical appliances where the electrical grid is already overloaded and vulnerable to outages from hacking and other reasons. Already the power companies are turning off power grids whenever the wind blows due to "fire danger".
 
   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #846  
Neighbors bought not long ago and decided the old central gas furnace had to go… nothing wrong with it but they wanted the Heat Pump credits…

I spoke with them recently and they said they got ahead of themselves… the new unit has had warranty issues and turned out to be more expensive because they originally did not factor a service upgrade…

They had only lived with the gas furnace a few weeks but it was quick to heat and now they find leaving the Heat Pump on 24/7 is needed because it takes a longtime to warm up from 50 when they are away.
 
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   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #847  
Over the years I've maintained a spreadsheet of electricity usage and cost. In 2009 our oil fired water heater failed and I installed an electric one (conventional with heating elements) to replace it. The kWh rate in the spreadsheet is a total of the combined supply and distribution rates. Two people in the household, electric stove, well water pump, electric hot water, and pellet stove (primary heat source), and oil fired forced hot air (secondary heat source). Central Massachusetts.
 

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   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #848  
Ya, in 1996 my electricity costs $0.05/KWH. Now with all added fees, future repair fees, and upped hydroelectric fees were averaging $0.11/KWH. This is still pretty cheap, but our bills do seem to be getting higher over the past year. Maybe i need to be less lazy and burn more wood over winter.
 
   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #849  
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   / what on earth does electricity cost near you? #850  
As long as there is firewood available! Where I live, not too many trees. For years I drove to Oregon - round trip ~ 500 miles - to pick up loads of firewood. Then that source dried up too so I had to go to a pellet stove.

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Meanwhile, I live in a forest and trees keep getting blown over by wind. I just lost the top of a 2-300 year old norway pine this winter. What a mess that tree will be to clean up but I guess that's another reason I got a Payloader... I'm still cleaning up trees from prior years storms and then there is the beaver damage. Sigh. Less people heating with wood nowadays so it is harder to say come get this and it is yours—and the couple of friends who do heat with wood are old enough nowadays that it is a bigger hassle for me to process the wood than to toss it into a slash pile and blaze it up in the winter.
 

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