Buying Advice What you should have ordered from PT

   / What you should have ordered from PT #21  
Mower, Grapple, Pickle Forks are my top 3 in order, then my york rake. After that they all get used about the same (Except the boom pole. Bad purchase).

I am glad I have spare tires, they save me a LOT of downtime.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #22  
The air manifold preheater makes a huge difference in starts below 50° F. I have a post here someplace showing them. They are an easy install but not as nice as true glow plugs which are not an option on these engines.

What implement you use the most definitely goes in spurts (for example, one year it was a mini hoe and yet there was one year where I did not use it at all). If I had to average it out over the years, I would say from greatest to least:

Snow Plow (my current V-plow setup is much nicer than a standard plow)
Forks
Bucket
Front Mounted Trailer Hitch
Swinging 4' Mini Hoe w/ Thumb mainly for lifting logs
Lifting Boom w/ 3pt adapter
Rock Bucket w/ Grapple
Brush Hog
Non-swinging 6' Deep Mini hoe w/Thumb mainly for digging
Box Blade w/ 3pt adapter
York Rake w/ 3pt adapter
Stump Grinder

Another mod that was nice - I replaced the valve stems with flush valve stems and used the bullet grade tire sealant. I have not put air in my tires in over 3 years. I was constantly filling them before since the rims are kind of beat.

I highly recommend replacing the seat. By far the best change I made. My kidneys and back thank me on a regular basis.

I agree with the other posts - if you are the least bit handy, replace the lights etc yourself.

Modifying or building implements like Carl has done can be fun and rewarding and saves you LOTS of money. I am also pleased with the additional hydraulic circuits I added.

Ken
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #23  
That's something on my wish list.... an electric selector valve for the hydraulics on the joystick so I could operate the power angle snowblade with my thumb VS having to take my hand off the joystick and reaching for the knee lever. It would also be handy for things like a grapple, I would think. Its so easy to go wild and customize about anything you want since its such a simple machine. But, all said, the PT is a pretty handy machine the way it comes.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #24  
The additional hydraulic circuits controlled via the joy stick was something I always wanted but kept putting off. But once I finally got a V-plow, then I needed an additional circuit so I could not put it off any longer. I will say it is nice to now keep the quick attach circuit always connected (I no longer even have disconnects on that circuit). Hard to believe that it has already been 3 years since I made this mod.

Ken
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT
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#25  
Great feedback all, THANKS!

My thread title could have been more clear, as in "What mods you should have ordered from PT"...

I will eventually compile a list and summarize this thread; happy to collect more ideas in the meantime. As previously mentioned though, I won't keep my hopes up about PT willingness.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #26  
I don't have any experience with the 14.3ci wheel motors on new 425s, but asking them to upgrade to larger wheel motors may be something to consider, especially if you will be working on slopes. At least one poster here was successful in getting Tazewell to do that...

It can get REAL expensive to do an upgrade later...
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT
  • Thread Starter
#27  
Good suggestion KentT if I was getting a 425 like most forum members... I'll be getting the 1430, and I don't recall any talk about being left wanting by its wheel motors...
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT
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#28  
Re: What mods you should have ordered from PT

OK; here's the list of factory mods I will inquire about:

  • replace casters of brush hog with ones from landscape rake (higher)
  • Female QDs for Aux. and PTO hydraulic couplings
  • 4in long hose with female QDs for each powered implement (to 'close the loop')
  • hydraulics with Rotella T6 5W30 (synthetic)
  • tie-down hooks on four corners (for securing on trailer)
  • longer wheel studs and 1/2-3/4" spacer to allow for tire chains
  • reversible motor on tiller
  • 6-ply tire like on model 1445

We'll see what they say...
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #29  
   / What you should have ordered from PT #30  
For QDs, I modified the aux circuit to use one female and one male. This allowed the implement's and the QA cylinder hoses to be coupled together when not in use. I also had to modify my mini hoe accordingly. The PTO was already setup this way, but included rubber/plastic covers to keep dirt out. The only downside I can see is if you wanted to reverse the flow on a PTO driven implement, but I don't have anything would need this.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #31  
I have been mulling hose jumpers, meaning two couplers that have male / female on each end so I can change the direction. I see the ideas of adding a circuit switch but the cost seems to me to be so high... Gonna have to research it.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #32  
I have been mulling hose jumpers, meaning two couplers that have male / female on each end so I can change the direction. I see the ideas of adding a circuit switch but the cost seems to me to be so high... Gonna have to research it.
Looks like a manual double selector valve is $97, that might suffice if there is someplace you can reach to put it (or as a "whoops fixer"): 3/4" NPT 30 GPM PRINCE DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE or 1/2" NPT 20 GPM DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE

Aaron Z
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #33  
My 12V controlled selector valves were only $140. For the extra $43, I would much rather have the luxury of pressing a button on the joy stick.

Ken
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #34  
Re: What mods you should have ordered from PT

OK; here's the list of factory mods I will inquire about:

  • replace casters of brush hog with ones from landscape rake (higher)
  • Female QDs for Aux. and PTO hydraulic couplings
  • 4in long hose with female QDs for each powered implement (to 'close the loop')
  • hydraulics with Rotella T6 5W30 (synthetic)
  • tie-down hooks on four corners (for securing on trailer)
  • longer wheel studs and 1/2-3/4" spacer to allow for tire chains
  • reversible motor on tiller
  • 6-ply tire like on model 1445

We'll see what they say...

Remember, if you raise the brush hog too high up off the ground, debris will fly out farther, including into the hoses and tunnel opening on the front of the PT under the FEL arms. You'll regret that decision later when you pummel the hoses with rocks and wood chips. ;) Solid tires on the brush hog are a must! :cool:

The Main PTO comes with one female and one male connector and so do all the implements. This prevents incorrect hook up for rotating equipment. You can hook the implement hoses together when not in use. This protects them from dirt and also allows you to spin the implement motor with your hands if you need to. So you shouldn't need to do anything to the Main PTO or any of the implements that run off of the main PTO.

The AUX PTO comes with male ends on both connectors on the FEL arms. And any implement that uses the AUX PTO (like the power-angle on the snow plow) comes with two female connectors. I don't know why they do this. However, in my opinion, its not worth messing with. The only problem it causes is if you hook the hoses up differently, the plow will angle left with a lever pull one time, and right the next time if you swapped the hoses. A simpler, and more cost effective remedy to prevent this would be to simple paint a color stripe on one of the AUX PTO connectors on the FEL arms and on the corresponding female implement connector of your choice. That way you always hook it up the same way each time. Doesn't cost anything but a small can of paint and a brush and tape if you like neat stripes! :thumbsup:

I think 30W oil is too low for the hydraulics. Mine has 40W in it from the factory.

Tie down hooks are a good idea. I use the trailer hitch on the back of the PT for the rear, however, its a single point. Two would be better. There's no good tie down point from the factory on the front. I added a hook to mine, but factory hooks located higher than the front tires on the front of the unit would be nice. Hmmm..... I may have to do that to mine, myself! :laughing:

Don't know about wheel studs and chains and such.

If you get a reversible motor on the tiller, you'll need a way to reverse it. Two short hoses with male/female quick connects would take care of that pretty cheaply if made at a local hydraulic shop VS having PT make them. You could put in a reversing circuit on the main PTO as well, but then you have the operator responsibility of making sure that you have it in the proper direction when brush hogging. It ads a level of failure to the human, if you know what I mean. ;) I'd try to un-jam it by just dragging is with some down pressure on the tines first. If that didn't work, pop in the short reversing hoses and run it backwards.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #35  
Also, just thought that you wouldn't need to have a hydraulic shop make the gender-benders if you just use solid fittings. It would be inflexible, of course, but you could do it yourself with a couple wrenches and pipe dope.
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT #36  
I'm seconding MR's comments on painting or labeling the AUX connections.
I use blue and red cable ties on my AUX cables to keep things operating the same way. In five years, I have had to replace one cable tie.
When I was purchasing my PT, I wanted a reversing tiller, but I have found that in practice that I don't need it. When it jams, e.g. on a rock, I idle the PTO, leave the tiller on the ground and back up. The ground motion causes the debris to fall out, and I can keep going.
YMMV.
All the best,
Peter
 
   / What you should have ordered from PT
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#37  
Thanks again for the feedback! :)
 

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