What's ailing my bota 4610"

[Chuck52]

Re: What\'s ailing my bota 4610\"

I bet auto supply places have some kind of hand operated pump you could use to move fluids. I thought of that as I was squeezing transmission fluid into my F150's 5-speed using a pint bottle that used to have chalk for a chalk line. Yep. As I was tasting the fluid dripping onto my beard I thought to myself, "Idiot! There's gotta be some kind of hand operated pump that would do this!"

Chuck

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: What\'s ailing my bota 4610

I've put a several foot piece of flexible vinyl hose on the outlet of a funnel to help in routing problems and it worked well. I have also used a turkey baster and a length of hose to do the same. The process is slow going but it worked. You can probably make a pan out of aluminum flashing and drill a hole in one end to exit over the reservoir inlet and let gravity take over. Faster, but the potential spills would be worse.

 

[MikePA]

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Would a turkey baster work for getting hyd fluid in?

 

[Dozernut]

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I got a hand pump that sits on top of a five gallon bucket that I use to pump transmission and differential oil. If I remember correctly I gave $27 for it at our local farm store. To use it you take the lid off a five gallon bucket of lube and replace it with the cover that holds the pump. The only draw back is if you are under a vehicle on a creeper, the bucket and pump are too tall to operate underneath. It has a 5-6 ft. hose so it will reach, but you will need a helper to operate the pump.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: What\'s ailing my bota 4610\"

SmokyMtnMan,

Unless I got it wrong, you added some hydraulic fluid and the thing moved a little...

I would call the dealer and find out if I would do much damage by over filling the system, and if not, I would follow the suggestions above for getting it in, and I would fill that thing overflowing and see what happened then.

If it worked and got you to the top, then you could stop and drain some out...not so hard to drain back out...I know...I started day dreaming when I changed mine and had it coming out the top before I realized it... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Who knows, maybe the pick up for the hydraulic fluid fell off in there or was never put on to begin with...I have no idea about that, but I do know that if a little is good, sometimes more is better... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

In any case...good luck with this...it will finally come to an end...always does...

 

[ByuBill]

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Has anyone tried using one of these? (see attachment) I used it to change the oil in my inboard boat. When I had one.

 

[SmokyMtnMan]

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wow, guys..those are good suggestions. I wonder if i can get enough in that way. Sure seems like fluid was what it was craving..or it was a heck of a coincidence
As far as my dealer, I have mixed thoughts on that. I've contacted a couple of times, and sent a few emails. To be fair, the technician there did call me back and we finally got hold of each other and he gave me a 'test' to do..and his diagonosis was the clutch...then...well, the 'solution' seemed to be for me to trade mine in and get a new one.

 

[Chuck52]

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I swear I feel an invention coming on, except it has to already be available. What I'm thinking of would look like a grease gun, but would have a tube out the bottom you could stick in any bottle or bucket, and a tube out the top to put where you want the stuff to go. Heck, a simple pump-type soap dispenser would operate with the same principle. Surely there's something like that available? It sure would have made filling my transmission a lot easier. I could only squeeze about 3/4 of the chalk bottle into the very inconveniently placed hole in the transmission before I had to add more fluid.

Chuck

 

[CTyler]

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Harbor frieght has several types similar to what you described. They have a bucket type pump, couple different siphon types, barrel pumps, drill attachment etc.. The drill pump listed says water only. I have seen what appears to be the same drill pump elsewhere with adapters for smaller hose. That one states water and oil up to 30wt.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: What\'s ailing my bota 4610\"

Hello SmokyMtnMan, up until now,I have been an anonymous reader of this board. I have been reading
your posts with great interest as I was very close to purchasing a new Kubota L4330 Cab Tractor from
Carver equipment. I am very saddened by the lack of help he has provided in your time of need. I also
live about 5 - 6 hours (half hour north of Richmond Va.) from his dealership and was worried about service
from my local dealers if I purchased my tractor from him. That being said,I have some information for you
after reading your latest post about the noise you had never heard before. I have worked with Vane, Gear
and Piston Pumps for the last 22 years and one thing they all have in common is that when they first start
to pump oil, they are noisy. The noise you heard was the pump cavitating (sucking a mixture of air and oil).
With vane pumps, this noise has been described as the pump sounding like it has marbles in it. With piston
pumps,it can be a fierce growling until the pump fills with oil and quietens down. with your pump inside the
tractor case, the noise will be muted, but the noise you heard pinpoints your problem, as many on this
board have theorized, you need to put more oil into the tractor to cover the pickup on the pump, I would
estimate 3 to 4 quarts should allow you to drive the tractor out of there. There have been several good
reccomendations on doing this, another would be a hand operated suction pump that looks like a grease
gun without the handle. To put oil into the pump you simply pull the handle on the end (like you are
changing a grease cartridge) with the opposite end in a container of oil. You can attach a length of flexible
hose to the suction end, stick the end of the hose into the case and push the handle and eject the oil into
the tractor. You can usually find these at Auto Parts stores. Whatever option you choose, please try this
before you pay someone to pull your tractor out. Hydrostatic drives are basically pumps and they may not
allow your wheels to turn freely like putting a gear tractor in nuetral. As I'm sure you are aware, if you want
to stop a hydrostat, you simply let go of the pedal and the tractor stops itself. Adding more oil will not hurt
anything for the short drive out of the valley you are in. When you get it back on level ground you can
drain the excess oil back out of the tractor and your in business!. On a seperate note, I have observed many discussion forums and without a doubt this board is the most polite and "gentlemanly" board I have found. People here are genuinely trying to help other members without regard for the "color" of their tractor.
Nailerguy