what's in a name.. Heavy duty :)

[Car Doc]

i dunno.. 25a is a pretty decent charge rate. a couple hours of that and unless it was a stone dead battery it should kick off.. hope ya got the time to wait!

Yeah 25 amps is a decent charge rate if it was that but I highly doubt it would be anywhere near that through 20 feet of 18 ga wire and 2 cigarette lighter plug ins etc, its probably more like .5 amp to 1 amp just guessing.

The HD zoner cables you started this thread about would be a heck of a lot better using them to do the same thing just battery to battery and running the donor car as long as it took to get it to start on its own. jmo

 

[jonyyuma]

Car-doc, yes what you said about giving the cables time to build a charge. BUT most of the time, they are in a hurry, So you leave em connected and try to start it right away, throw the full load across the cables and plated steel jaws...Can you see the smoke?

 

[boxygen]

I seem to vaguely remember jumping a car in high school witha piece of speaker wire :ashamed:

 

[SPYDERLK]

Here's a pair I made from #2 welding cable maybe 15 to 20 feet long.
The ends are clamped down and soldered with big electric soldering pistol. Made them longer also to jump off vehicles from afar in case I have to.Like in parking lots etc.
I have sat and watched people trying to jump start their vehicles with some of those junky skinny wires they sell as jumper cables to no avail. Have come afterwards and told them "you done playing,here lets hook these up and start your car ". Put them on BINGO, fired rite up.

Boone

You did it right with the solder connection. Crimps will often develop resistance over time and then the resultant heat of the connection degrades them fast. Even a cheap cables would do well if only 8' long if they had soldered wire connections and had both jaws on clamps connected by a soldered copper loop instead of just thru the pivot pin. Cheap clamp setups run hot ... thats lost voltage.
larry

 

[SPYDERLK]

When I was in the AF we jumped a M151 jeeps by touching the front wheel bearing caps (which had tie-down eyes in them) and touching the leads for the blackout drive lights. It helped that there were no fuses and they were 24 volts. Most of the vehicles had slave cable receptacles so the practice was rare but it worked.

Current thru the bearings ...
larry

 

[Car Doc]

Car-doc, yes what you said about giving the cables time to build a charge. BUT most of the time, they are in a hurry, So you leave em connected and try to start it right away, throw the full load across the cables and plated steel jaws...Can you see the smoke?

Not sure what you are trying to say?

And yes I have seen plenty of smoke in my career caused by DIY'ers with improper methods with good tools and junk tools same end result pay someone else to do it right at extra expense. :thumbsup:

 

[Soundguy]

Current thru the bearings ...
larry

maybee thru a steering arm and tie rod end/joint too..

 

[jonyyuma]

Not sure what you are trying to say?

And yes I have seen plenty of smoke in my career caused by DIY'ers with improper methods with good tools and junk tools same end result pay someone else to do it right at extra expense. :thumbsup:

I was just rolling around about the clamps and the jackets on the cheapest cable smoking from the heat of the draw. I saw two mbs trying to jump with the bumpers touching and using the steel bumper jack with handle. What attracted my attention, was the sparking as they touched everything but the top of the battery. Plus shorting batterys can cause the whole top to erupt. We have a lot of 8d batterys pop under diesel loads when they get old, sometime 2 years or more?Diy's do pay more sometimes??I remember cables breaking just from the vibration of the engines, and copperclad aluminum cables on GM cars?

 

[NativeSon]

I'm not sure where nativeson came up with the condescending 'learned it on burn notice' comment.. but I found it a tad offensive, since I said that I had done it, not that I had seen it on tv, which essentially means he was calling me a liar???

In any case.. another good trick is to fix a loos bat cable clamp with a penny.

some young gal I worked with had a loose bat terminal clamp, and the nut was permanently rusted to the tension bolt.. I beat a penny kinda in a u shapt with a crescent wrench by laying it ona joint in the pavement, and then hammered it down into the spot between the cable clamp and the eroding ( from arcing and being loose ) battery post.

I told her that she needed to get her boyfriend to fix it... next time I saw her I asked her if she got it fixed and her reply was that her boyfriend said it worked good, why change it I then told her she needed to ask her FATHER to change it before she was left stranded. next time I saw her she mentioned that her father had put on a new cable terminal. ....

I bet nativeson thinks I saw that one on tv as well, instead of actually being there.. ??

soundguy

Not meant to be condescending......just an attempt at humor.

Charlie

 

[Car Doc]

I was just rolling around about the clamps and the jackets on the cheapest cable smoking from the heat of the draw. I saw two mbs trying to jump with the bumpers touching and using the steel bumper jack with handle. What attracted my attention, was the sparking as they touched everything but the top of the battery. Plus shorting batterys can cause the whole top to erupt. We have a lot of 8d batterys pop under diesel loads when they get old, sometime 2 years or more?Diy's do pay more sometimes??I remember cables breaking just from the vibration of the engines, and copperclad aluminum cables on GM cars?

Ok I got it now! :thumbsup:

Yes a spark caused by a lousy connection and someone in a hurry to get going sure could cause a battery explosion. I have done it a few times not pleasant getting acid in the eyes and face btdt plus it does a number right now on a paint job!

I haven't for many years now wonder if something has changed in battery design just thinking out loud???