What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing?

   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #31  
It looks like the '08 diesels get anywhere from 8MPG to 17MPG depending who you ask. Remember there is a lot of difference between an F250 4x2 short bed SRW with a 3.73 rear end, and an F450 CC 4x4 dually with a 4.88 rear end.
The MPG will also be different. For what it's worth my '08 F250 got 14.5 MPG on a 400 mile mainly highway road trip. (It's a gas V10)
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #32  
Driving styles are a major factor as well, I can vary my fuel usage by 2-3 mpg on my truck driving the same highway every day, just depends on how much I get into the pedal.
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #33  
Marcussen said:
It looks like the '08 diesels get anywhere from 8MPG to 17MPG depending who you ask. Remember there is a lot of difference between an F250 4x2 short bed SRW with a 3.73 rear end, and an F450 CC 4x4 dually with a 4.88 rear end.
The MPG will also be different. For what it's worth my '08 F250 got 14.5 MPG on a 400 mile mainly highway road trip. (It's a gas V10)
From what I have read, your range is about right. Most people say they are in the 12-14 MPG range.
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #34  
If you want a real deal, buy a year or two old V10. I recently attended a large auto auction (ran over 4500 vehicles through in one day) and the year or two old V10 pickups brought about 10k to 14k less than the identical diesel versions. Actually, many of the V10's just didn't sell at all. In general pickups have a history of having a strong resale value, but now V10's can really be had for a bargain if you want one. Even though I said I'd never have one, for the price I did test drive one. Unfortunately, with my trailer weighing in well over 16k, the V10 flat out couldn't cut the mustard. So, even though I could save a ton on buying a used V10, it won't pull my trailer out the highway and their lack of fuel economy just kill them for me. A friend who owns a Ford dealership tells me that he orders in his Super Duty trucks at the rate of about 75% diesel and 25% gas. Still, he has the gas units getting old in stock. He's looking for some big time rebates from Ford to help move the units. So, again, if you want gas, hold on for a bit. Besides being able to buy one for far less used, you may get a huge rebate on the V10 models from the factory soon.

If you don't pull a really heavy trailer and you don't drive many miles per year, a V10 could be just what you need. Let's face it, if there were no need at all for the truck, nobody would build a V10 gasser. My problem is that I do pull a relatively heavy trailer (that felt way too heavy for the V10 I tested with my trailer) and I do drive too many miles a year. The lack of pulling power and low economy with high gas prices just kills the "bargain" for me. For some of you, it may be a great buy. Happy hunting!
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #35  
I dig Dargo's sig.

Is that hammer titanium?

-Mike Z.
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #36  
Dargo
along with your 14 X 52 skirted castle, do you also have the West Virginia state flower near by? You know, a satelite dish,,
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #37  
Dargo, you describe my truck driving correctly, less than 10K a year and occasionaly pulling a 10.5K goose neck trailer or a 7K utility trailer. The V10 should be plenty good enough since my old 460 V8 could handle it. I would expect the resale of my V10 to be less than a diesel since I paid 12K less than any diesel on the dealers lot. If I keep it as long as my last truck resale is not good after 13-14 years anyway. Plus 14MPG on a gas versus 16-17MPG (maybe) on a diesel is not that bad of a trade off.
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #38  
Dargo, welcome back, I have missed you!! Also, your advice is really good. The diesel is nice to have, and I, like most of us have been spoiled by its power. It is nice for pulling. I have had a gas V10 also, a 2001 F250 s/d. I liked the truck, it was fairly quiet and drove great. My neighbor has an Expedition with the same engine and it has about 180,000 miles on it and runs well, so the longevity is certainly there too. They do not pull as well as the diesel, and they do not get the same loaded fuel economy, but with the emissions friendly diesels the gap is closing some. Although the new ones have more stock power than mine did (362 hp v. 310) I feel the economy is close. I got about 14.5 on the highway driving easily, and about 13.5 driving faster. Pulling about 8000#, I would get about 8-9 mpg depending on the amount of hills and speeds. In town, I could get around 12, but I did not live in the same hilly environment as I currently do, so I would take 1 mpg off that number listed for my current conditions. In short, the V10 gets within 2-3 mpg of a NEW PSD in town and 3-4 less unloaded on highway. Loaded, I would say 4 mpg, perhaps 5 would be the average for an equivalent truck. The power certainly is not there when pulling, but it is much less expensive and would do a nice job otherwise. The biggest issue of course is resale. V10 equipped trucks sell VERY slowly here and bring a large percentage less money when they do. Interestingly, though, MY V10 sold pretty quickly and held its value well, so this might be case by case.

John M
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #39  
V10 diesels seem to go pretty fast around here, and the diesel prices are cheaper than gas at this moment in time.

Plus, they sound better. :)

-Mike Z.
 
   / What's With the Ford Super Duty Pricing? #40  
V10 diesel? Is is a VW?


John M
 

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