Which dump truck

[GSVette]

Now that is a dump truck..

Thanks-gotta love an old Louisville Ford w/8.2 DD at a whoppin’ 190ish Hp !! Not winning any speed or acceleration titles!! I may only go 5-10 mph up some grades, loaded but I get there eventually

 

[EddieWalker]

I bought a F650 with a 360 big block gas engine and 4 speed manual transmission that can haul five yards without sideboards and six with boards. It's been great at moving dirt around my place, but it was never meant for constant off road usage, and as a result, I sanded my engine. Basically the factory stock air filter system is not good enough to keep out the constant dust created by going over the same dirt road over and over again. After rebuilding the engine, a friend gave me a much better air filter system that has an inner and outer filter like used on ag tractors. I mounted it to the side of the radiator and made it so it gets air from the grill as far forward as possible. The difference is night and day.

My bed lifts from a PTO off of my transmission. I have to be stopped. Then I put it into the PTO gear and rev the engine to power the hydrualic pump that lifts the bed. Higher the engine revs, the faster it lifts the bed. This all works fairly well once you get used to it.

My bed lifts from a hydraulic cylinder that works a scissor kind of set of steel arms. If you look at a few different dump trucks, you'll see what I'm talking about. It was fairly common awhile ago, but I don't think so anymore. With all those moving parts, you have to keep it greased, and you have to be careful not to twist when dumping a load. Sounds simple, but when filling an area, it's kind of hard not to get into weird positions. Eventually, the steel will bend and twist to the point of failure. That was a lot of fun. I had to remove all of it and take it to a welding/machine shop to fix it and make sure it was perfectly aligned.

If I ever buy another dump truck, it will not have any type of linkage to lift the bed. Just a hydraulic cylinder attached to the bed that does it all. This is how all the construction dump beds work.

The other issue is dirt sticking to the bed. If there is any moisture in the dirt, it will start to compact in the corners. Once this starts, it just gets bigger with every load. I found that I would have to stop after ten loads and clean out the bed with a shovel. This takes about an hour. I've welded on a new floor to the bottom of my bed to make it perfectly smooth, and that has helped, but not solved the problem. I painted the bed with a special paint that was supposed to stop dirt from sticking to it, and that worked for awhile, but then the dirt wore it away. It was expensive paint. I think $100 for a gallon that lasted a few days, so that's not something that I'm going to do again. For now, I don't need to move any dirt, so it's not a concern. I'll deal with it the next time I need to use it.

 

[nyone]

I have a 95 c30. Its a k3500 dump with a few slight difference. Its gvw is 12k. 1 cord of wood isnt a problem. 2 yards of sand possibly. I usualy shoot for 2.5tons. I plow residential with it and use it like a pickup truck, HD runs and other such things.

A dump truck has more use for me than a dump trailer but costs more per year in insurance. This one is paid for and pays for its self in my few plow accounts every year...or else i would sell it. I like having a truck thats for work only.

 

[radios1]

I bought a F650 with a 360 big block gas engine and 4 speed manual transmission that can haul five yards without sideboards and six with boards. It's been great at moving dirt around my place, but it was never meant for constant off road usage, and as a result, I sanded my engine. Basically the factory stock air filter system is not good enough to keep out the constant dust created by going over the same dirt road over and over again. After rebuilding the engine, a friend gave me a much better air filter system that has an inner and outer filter like used on ag tractors. I mounted it to the side of the radiator and made it so it gets air from the grill as far forward as possible. The difference is night and day.

My bed lifts from a PTO off of my transmission. I have to be stopped. Then I put it into the PTO gear and rev the engine to power the hydrualic pump that lifts the bed. Higher the engine revs, the faster it lifts the bed. This all works fairly well once you get used to it.

My bed lifts from a hydraulic cylinder that works a scissor kind of set of steel arms. If you look at a few different dump trucks, you'll see what I'm talking about. It was fairly common awhile ago, but I don't think so anymore. With all those moving parts, you have to keep it greased, and you have to be careful not to twist when dumping a load. Sounds simple, but when filling an area, it's kind of hard not to get into weird positions. Eventually, the steel will bend and twist to the point of failure. That was a lot of fun. I had to remove all of it and take it to a welding/machine shop to fix it and make sure it was perfectly aligned.

If I ever buy another dump truck, it will not have any type of linkage to lift the bed. Just a hydraulic cylinder attached to the bed that does it all. This is how all the construction dump beds work.

The other issue is dirt sticking to the bed. If there is any moisture in the dirt, it will start to compact in the corners. Once this starts, it just gets bigger with every load. I found that I would have to stop after ten loads and clean out the bed with a shovel. This takes about an hour. I've welded on a new floor to the bottom of my bed to make it perfectly smooth, and that has helped, but not solved the problem. I painted the bed with a special paint that was supposed to stop dirt from sticking to it, and that worked for awhile, but then the dirt wore it away. It was expensive paint. I think $100 for a gallon that lasted a few days, so that's not something that I'm going to do again. For now, I don't need to move any dirt, so it's not a concern. I'll deal with it the next time I need to use it.

it sounds like you want a Stainless Steel bed liner, THAT would solve the problem.. maybe 1/8" thick sheets.. welded with Stainless Steel rods to the original bed.. or just blow the sand out with a leaf blower..

 

[nyone]

I have the same type of linkage on my dump. Its got 151k on the clock and a newer bed floor. The linkage is original and dosnt have grease fittings. My bed dosnt get clogged with dirt because before i put the bed down i go forward a few feet then jab the brakes. This slams the tail gate agains the bed knocking all the dirt out. But im also not taking load after load.

It sounds like you bought the wrong truck for your application. They make site dump trucks for offroad use.

I paint the inside of my bed anualy before wintet and keep it tipped up so no puddles form. I think this helps. I have no rust scale and generaly alot of the paint is still there when im ready to paint it again.

 

[Rustyiron]

The good thing here in NH is with farm plates no cdl is required. In addition insurance is optional. I never plan on hauling the fill on the road. The only thing would be firewood. I was looking to use the f350 only on my property for moving sandy fill or stone. I have my own pits to pull from. I am more concerned with breaking the f350 with two or 3 yards at a time that i will move. It sounds like in your opinion it will not be up to the task. I will look at an f450 or higher I guess.

One ton's are very limited to stay legal, but with your farm tags and location you'll be fine imo. The 350 will take a load of wood just fine and if it's a little saggy, take $500 along with you to a spring shop for a few extra ply's added to the springs. In a similar situation while moving hundreds of yards of dirt, (all off road on my property) I regularly "freighted" my F 450 with as much as I could get on that old girl (literally falling off the side boards) and never hurt it.

 

[liberty2701]

I considered the dump trailer idea. I think it would be very difficult navigating and dumping loads in the woods. The f350 class sounds the most appealing since the only thing being carried on the road would be a cord of wood. All other duties would be on my property. I am not worried about being scaled. I am more worried about breaking the truck.

 

[liberty2701]

This looks like an interesting option. Chevy 1 ton dump - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale
I know nothing about this truck. Any input on the engine,trans or overall capabilities of the truck would be great. Thanks

 

[4570Man]

I think the automatic transmissions in those trucks suck. The price is pretty steep too.

 

[liberty2701]

I think the automatic transmissions in those trucks suck. The price is pretty steep too.

That is what I am looking for. Any one else? Thanks