which loader is this?

[shovelrider]

I bought my ym1700 2wd for $2800 refurbished off a guy, and for extra $400 i got this. o/s cyl. measure 1.75",top measures 21.5"L . Buckets are 1.75 dia.x18.5"L both have i/s rams at 1". No stamped numbers anywhere, can't find any markings either. This tractor runs and operates like a dream. Going to order the new hydr. add-on pcs. from Hoye Tractor Parts for press. side and return side. so, i don't have to cut any lines. Never been a fan of having alot of fittings all over the place. Thanks for your help n advance. Jim

 

[CosperTractor]

Kelly or possibly a KD.

Kelley Manufacturing Corporation

KD Loaders

Hope this helps,
Donald

 

[winston1]

Welcome aboard. :welcome: And thanks for the picitures. Nice looking tractor. I don't fully understand the loader. Is the arm with the plate on it going back toward the driver made for the control valve? Normally, there would be some frame attachment down low going up the the front of the tractor. Yours many have it and I just don't see it. Attaching a picture showing what I am talking about.

 

[shovelrider]

Thanks Cosper, it looks closer to the Kelley dl1000 than any i've seen. And Winston, thanks to you too. For the pic, you are correct i didn't put a pic in of what they had for a stabelizer bar. I am in the process of makeing a little bit heavier one, something along the lines of the one in your picture. Will add pics ltr. today of what it came with, then what i'am making instead. One other thing was wondering, does this tractor always make a louder than normall clapping sound when running? I've heard they do until they warm-up, and then they still are alittle noisy. Anyways this is a awesome compact tractor, that will do what i need it to for a cheap price. I was raised that if you take care of what you have, it will last longer than you. Winsto1 can you send me pics of the front and belley mount pics of yours? Thanks for your help. Jim

 

[California]

...One other thing was wondering, does this tractor always make a louder than normall clapping sound when running? I've heard they do until they warm-up, and then they still are alittle noisy

The racket is normal. Wear hearing protection. Here's a sound file/video I posted long ago.

 

[winston1]

Yes, the 2 cylinder Yanmars are famous for the "Yammer Hammer". Not good with a camera but did try.
Yours probably sounds something like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgoLRb7_TIs

 

[shovelrider]

Thanks Winston, Did you cut your lines and use comprssion fittings or not? Was thinking of trying the new disk that Hoye Tractor has. Not a big fan of running hydr. lines everywheres. Then again i guess its how you run your lines. I will get manuals next month. Going back out to do some measureing. Txs again..

 

[CosperTractor]

If you bought from a dealer give them a call and see if they know.

 

[winston1]

Thanks Winston, Did you cut your lines and use comprssion fittings or not? Was thinking of trying the new disk that Hoye Tractor has. Not a big fan of running hydr. lines everywheres. Then again i guess its how you run your lines. I will get manuals next month. Going back out to do some measureing. Txs again..

I have a VN refurbed tractor. The lines were cut and compression fittings used. I have since replumbed my loader valve with power beyond and added quick disconnects for loader removal. Guessing your loader valve will have a power beyond port.

 

[BatesBunch]

Check with your local Swagelok distributor for an adapter if you decide to cut the pressure line. I was rather surprised at the inexpensive cost when I installed them on my 1500D. The pressure line on my 3110D is the same diameter as the 1500D (12mm for both), there is just a lot more of it to work with on the larger tractor.

The Swagelok part number is S-12M0-1-6 for a 12mm compression to 3/8" NPT adapter. Cost was $6.50 each as of May2013. Pretty inexpensive for something with the Swagelok name on it and definitely cheaper than $22+ each for an adapter from tractor parts suppliers. The product page link is here. There are also different configurations available.

There will still be hoses ran forward to the adapter plates/discs if you choose that method. Cutting the line can give you some flexibility with the installation location and hose routing.

Like Mr. Winston stated, install with a 'power beyond' port if that is available on your control valve. It will require one additional hose for the tank return, but the loader and 3-point lift will act as two separate circuits with high and low pressure on the proper sides of the spool valves as designed.

See post #82 under Power Beyond vs Series for loader valve? - Page 9 for the way that I plumbed my tank return on the 1500D. I have also attached pictures below of the installed adapters. Overall, I am happy with the install, but the loader is too big for the 1500D and will have to come off.

Hope this helps a little with ideas.

 

[shovelrider]

BatesBunch, will check into it today. Little Rock has a dealer will call them, i do appreciate it. And the write up for the return is very helpful, as i was wondering about that. Txs again. Should be ready to install next wk. trying to see in pics, on where filter houseing bolts to for the hyd. fld. filter coming from hy-press. side right? They had some 1 1/2" thin conduit material for loader support brakets, making them out of 3/8" flatbar this should add strength/weight. Front connecting plt. 3/8: also for weight. Will be sending pics of progress. Txs for all the help guys. Jim

 

[winston1]

Hydraulic filter is on the low pressure side. Big line is low pressure or suction. Your tie in will come only on the high pressure side except the tank return line from the control valve. You will have to find an opening for it. Wonder what reference #32 is in the drawing? Useable? It has a copper gasket under it.

 

[shovelrider]

Ok, like i said i will be getting service/owner man. next month(3rd)retirement/disb.$$. Trying to gather info. from pics./ knowledge from all i can thank you Winston. It has HOI-PRINOE stamped on side. IN/OUT where lines are in 1st pic.? Anyone know about this type valve? Either c68-0 or 088-0 also stamped on side. Txs Jim

 

[BatesBunch]

Mr. Jim,

Take a look at the links below and see if it matches your control valve. The first two links are to the Prince LVR Loader Valve on SurplusCenter.com. The last link is to the manufacturer's page for the LVR valve. The longer spool valve housing should be the spool valve with the 'float' feature.

2 SPOOL 14 GPM PRINCE LVR JOYSTICK LOADER VALVE

http://www.surpluscenter.com/_MoreSpecs/as9-8185.pdf

Prince Hydraulics > Products > Hydraulic Valves > Loader > Rear Ported 14 GPM

 

[winston1]

Looks like the BatesBunch has found your valve. Your pictures indicate the power beyond feature is not being used. I can't actually see the power beyond plug in your pictures but it must still be in place. Shouuld be on bottom or depending on how you turn the valve I guess it could be on top.

 

[shovelrider]

Yes sir, its on the btm., Thanks BatesBunch and Winston for your help, i am almost done fig. out the sub-frame pcs.. Getting everything measured out and cut, then tack welded. Bolted or clamped in place, so i can lift it up for a fit test. Slow n go just want to make sure everything lines up and will have plenty of clearence to operate smoothly. Anyways i will post pics of frame and install pics. after attached. Been looking for bh attachment, around here they go for 2-3k used and in good shape. But you have to call on em or they're like hotcakes and go fast. Valve is a good one, only seen one small leak on bucket cyl. where it screws into cyl. its self. Will know more when i purge lines. Thanks again. Jim:thumbsup:

 

[shovelrider]

Ok started on sub-frame fab. job. Looks like everything is going to line-up ok. After looking at others on TBN, this is what i've come up with. Some parts are just tacked or still clamped in place. Will do welding and put on drill press tomorrow. The channel iron is 3/16" w/3/8 welded to under side, the rest is 1/4" or 3/8" and 1/2" for the front tabs on bumper. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. Txs

 

[shovelrider]

What is behind the plate w/3 bolts, in the last picture? I don't have manuals yet. Txs. Jim

 

[California]

What is behind the plate w/3 bolts, in the last picture?

Hydraulic screen. Remove that plate and slide out the screen to clean it.

 

[winston1]

Thanks for the pictures. Not understanding "the channel iron is 3/16" w/3/8" welded to the under side"?