which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s

   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s
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#31  
I'm sorry to hear you had issues. When you called MF about your tractor how did they respond. I've talked to four different tractor manufacturers in the last couple of weeks to get questions answered dealers couldn't. All were easy to get a hold of and bent over backwards to provide me with the info i requested except one and that was JD. I never was able to contact them by phone email or chat. All i ever got were polite inquires as to my needs then a response in form letter form that in no way addressed my questions. Up untill that point i was gonna get the JD 1025R but i decided i didnt wish to own a tractor made by a company that was to good to talk to its customers. I would like to know hiow MF handled your requests because they seem to have the best built little tractor on the market and the company will talk.
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s
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#32  
when i did a search on NH issues i found several but MF, nothing except minor ones as well as JD. Now this was just the little guys like the 1526, 1531, 1720 mf's and jd 1025r, NH 25s and a couple of others
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s #33  
when i did a search on NH issues i found several but MF, nothing except minor ones as well as JD. Now this was just the little guys like the 1526, 1531, 1720 mf's and jd 1025r, NH 25s and a couple of others

For quite a period of time now, Phillip goes into an occasional rant about an old full sized tractor he had and how much better it was than a newer MF compact tractor he bought. It's hard to know if he had the worst lemon of any tractor ever or he operated it incorrectly for its size. . . but I believe supposedly he had his front axle area blown 3 or 4 times in just a few years time. I've never heard of any tractor by any brand in the same age range having such a situation except by some operating error repeatedly done. But every couple months he comes back with the story again.

MF and their manufacturing partner Iseki have had great good fortune and success with their particular tractor lines in the sub compact and small compact arenas. Every brand gets an occasional problem while some brands have more than occasional problems. MF falls into the 1st category and not the 2nd.

Jmho
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s
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#34  
For quite a period of time now, Phillip goes into an occasional rant about an old full sized tractor he had and how much better it was than a newer MF compact tractor he bought. It's hard to know if he had the worst lemon of any tractor ever or he operated it incorrectly for its size. . . but I believe supposedly he had his front axle area blown 3 or 4 times in just a few years time. I've never heard of any tractor by any brand in the same age range having such a situation except by some operating error repeatedly done. But every couple months he comes back with the story again.

MF and their manufacturing partner Iseki have had great good fortune and success with their particular tractor lines in the sub compact and small compact arenas. Every brand gets an occasional problem while some brands have more than occasional problems. MF falls into the 1st category and not the 2nd.

Jmho

I asked him for more information and the reason for my questions was to ascertain if the problems were real or exaggerated. I have busted my share of axles over the years but none were the fault of the manufacturer they were all my fault. Things like wrong size and weight of wheels, wrong tires for the intended application, grossly overloading axles, spinning wheels at high rpm then wheel is suddenly slowed to a stop by contact with a firm surface, etc. But, even then it was my folly that caused the damage. ...chuckle...one of the best was at the duck club exploring in my jeep CJ5 followed by a fellow hunter in a new dodge power wagon. I stopped to check out a creek crossing which was at the bottom of the berm we were driving on. I decided it wasn't safely doable because the crossing was simply a bunch of loosely tied logs of small diameter sitting on the creek mud bottom. Creek wasn't deep but you had to have enough speed to make it up the steep bank once you made the crossing. Was only about fifteen feet. Anyway, the PW owner said his power wagon could make it east and i tried to talk him out of it. But he was determined like everyone else to out do a cj5 so i said go for it but be gentle cause if you go into the creek it will be extremely difficult to get you out. Well he didnt listen he blasted down the leeve and onto the logs then gave it more gas to prepare for the steep incline causing him to slide off into the creek. He was now in the creek throwing geysers of water and mud but not moving an inch. I figured i could hook up to him with my winch from the top of the levee and maybe pull him back onto the logs. Yeah right, i pulled and pulled but all i did was sit there spinning. I then decided to put some slack in the tow cable drop into low range first and punch it!<smile> It worked the powerwagon jumped into the air turned half way around and landed back on the logs i then kept gentle pressure of the cable and he grew a brain and gently backed back up top where i was. I went home happy that i had again proved the superiority of cj5's. The next day he called me to tell me his PW wouldn't shift right and it was kinda going down the road sideways so he was raking it to the Dealer. PW damage, twisted frame cracked bell housing and motor mount. After hearing the damage i realized my souped up 304 V8 had realy showed its muscle and wondered if i had any damage. Well i no longer had four wheel drive. When the weight of the power wagon suddenly hit the cable after the slack was used up all that load was on my front axle locking the front wheels to the ground so the front differential just kinda disintegrated. My cost for dealer repair was $350 his cost was thousands of dollars and the PW was never the same so he sold it with less that 10,000 miles on it.
If your gonna play the game you have to be willing to pay the price.

Sorry for the long post
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s #35  
This little Massey never lived up to do what I purchased it for. First it's engine: pretty reliable, but had to have screaming to get anything out of it. I bought it for snow removal. Problem was it would not start in the winter, so still had to use my allis. If you were mowing or tilling etc , it would burn just as much fuel as my allis unless the allis was pulling a disc or glow or something similar. With the enclosed hood design, it always wanted to run hot. I always ran with the side panels off in the summer time.
Front end: I had (3) front axle rebuilds, the fourth failure I did not spend any more money on such a piece of junk. I also busted a steering cylinder. Merz, a dealer in Nebraska finally admitted after 3 rebuild and the steering cylinder, that that particular tractor has weak front ends(that came from the dealer). He tried to talk me into a 1700 series. I told him he was crazy. The problem shelled. I asked agco if the was a closer dealer. They said kanequip. I took the tractor to kanequip in Topeka ks. The rebuilt I costing $5500. Eight months later I'm tilling the garden. Pto shells again. No body wants to warranty the repair. I got agco involved. Agco said they warranty repairs for 12 months. I said good, fix this piece of junk you call a tractor. Agco continued to wiggle. The said kanequip in Marysville is an authorized dealer and kanequip in Topeka is not. The reason there aren't many dealers in Kansas except for the larger towns in my opinion is simply( an agco dealer would starve to death, no one would buy there tractors). There are John Deere and case-ih dealers everywhere. Look in the fields. It is primarily dominated by John Deere and case-ih.
The salvage yard: we are both offspring of family friends that go way way back (70-80 years). First thing he asked about is the front end. He said he gets calls a couple times a month with people looking for front end parts and rarely does he find one with a good front end. He said them little Massey's are not much of a tractor. Truthfully I'm glad I'm rid of that piece of junk and getting into a deere. Agco cleaned my plow, but they lost out on any future purchases of their products from me. I will admit that I did a lot of work with the loader. I handled gravel, sand, dirt and did some digging. But the loader has a relief valve that should prevent overload. Looks like "agco geniuses" ought to think about building a front end for their so called tractor. I will give the hydrostatic drive a good review.
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s #36  
I have read enough of your Massey junk rants to know that John Deere is in for quite the ride "IF" you have better luck getting them to talk to you than the OP did..
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s
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#37  
I have read enough of your Massey junk rants to know that John Deere is in for quite the ride "IF" you have better luck getting them to talk to you than the OP did..

????...If you are referring to me and have read my posts you know i mentioned more than once that JD was off my list because no matter how hard i tried i was never able to talk to a factory representative but it was easy to talk to MF.

Understand?
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s #38  
It was meant for Philip.. I should have quoted his last post..
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s
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#39  
It was meant for Philip.. I should have quoted his last post..

<smile>...I kinda thought that may be the case. I apologize if I seemed a bit harsh.

You have a 1705. The first toy MF i saw was a was a 1705 or 10 TLB and i liked it very much. I'lll never use a belly mower just a tiller box blade brush hog and back hoe. Do you use yours for any heavy stuff?
 
   / which one, JD 1025R or MF GC1720 or MF 1526 with woods backhoe or NH25s #40  
<smile>...I kinda thought that may be the case. I apologize if I seemed a bit harsh.

You have a 1705. The first toy MF i saw was a was a 1705 or 10 TLB and i liked it very much. I'lll never use a belly mower just a tiller box blade brush hog and back hoe. Do you use yours for any heavy stuff?

I have a SSQQ 60 inch bucket, pallet forks, a 4ft bush hog and a 54 inch rear snowblower, I use them all fairly often, I have lifted 700lbs with it many times, it's a tough little tractor, the PTO HP is a bit higher than the competition, the hydro pump on these little guys is pretty stout. My rear tires are loaded and I have a rear weight box that weigh's 300lbs. The DL95 loader has a lot of power on the curl and that really makes the loader stronger than you would it would be..
 

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