Which truck would you get?

[ssls6]

I have a 2012 6.2l f150 with max tow package and 15k miles. Very happy, will tow 7k at 75 all day long and get 11 mpg doing it...half my miles are towing. Had a 4.7 tundra before that, it could barely pull itself up long grades....I loved the truck but it was not good at towing. My new f150 tows like my older f250 6.0 liter diesel..maybe 1-2 mpg less. I've heard the new tundras are much better.

 

[94BULLITT]

He is pulling your leg, plain and simple. The 6.2L is a great towing engine (I've heard better than the V10), and certainly better on fuel than the V10, but there's no way he's getting the fuel economy numbers he told you. It just ain't happening!

The 6.2 will eat a V10 3V or any of the previous diesels. I saw some guys on another forum test the different Ford trucks.

 

[fordmantpw]

The 6.2 will eat a V10 3V or any of the previous diesels. I saw some guys on another forum test the different Ford trucks.

Yep, pickuptrucks.com did a good review when the 6.2L came out. The 6.2L held it's own very well with even the diesels. But, I guarantee it's not getting 12-13 MPG towing an 8-9k lb fiver.

 

[sd455dan]

Thanks for the replies, but I did mention I would like to pay for the truck with what I could sell mine for, which I estimate at $16-17K so that knocks out ANY new truck, most likely anything as new as what I own. I would not get rid of this truck for any brand half ton. This truck has been too reliable and there's not enough to gain for me to just move to another 1/2T.

I'm not sure, the whole thing might be a bad idea, but it's where my mind is right now.

I only have experience with an 03 3500 Ram 4x4 srw it has the 305 Hp 555ft. lbs. torque High output Cummins engine, And i really like it - one in the price range your'e talking should be available.
the 1st 100,000 miles it was used to pull a little larger version of the trailer you pull 3000 miles each way. It is an early year of HPCR but has NO emissions equipment
Hiway mileage with just passengers last tank 22.5 mpg hand calculated, pulling a loaded (12k) equipment trailer 13-15+- . my:2cents:

 

[sd455dan]

The 6.2 will eat a V10 3V or any of the previous diesels. I saw some guys on another forum test the different Ford trucks.

The 6.2 will eat ANY of the previous diesels??
so if you compare the highest 6.2s hp 385 tq =434 @4179 RPM or the over 10k gvwr 316 hp tq 397@4179 RPM to even the say 04.5 cummins @ 325hp tq 600@1600RPM Hmmm towing anything , low end torque is of importance the Cummins will be making 600 ft lbs. at 1600 RPMs the 6.2 ford will be Lucky to make maybe 275 ft lbs. at 1600 rpm??? (no turbo- right? ) I don't see it, or are Cummins not being compared?? the 6.2s torque #s are at rpms not normally seen ?? What gives?? got the 6.2 specs off of Meadowland Fords site.. anyone seen a graph with the torque displayed- from say 1400 rpm and up ??

 

[fordmantpw]

Well, the 6.2 won't "eat any of the previous diesels", but it holds it own against the latest diesels, so I'm sure it will hold it's own even better against the previous diesels.

Check out this link: 2010 HD 7 Percent Hill Climb Test - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports
And this link: 2010 HD Quarter-Mile Acceleration Test (Loaded) - PickupTrucks.com Special Reports

And this one: http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2010/08/2010-hd-16-percent-hill-climb-test-.html

The 6.2L out-tows the RAM diesel in the 16% hill climb test. You can throw the ratings out the window, this truck really performed!

It's not a direct comparison to the earlier diesels, but the 6.2L is pretty strong.

 

[sd455dan]

Any of these 2010 and newer trucks are not being sold in the 15-18k price range.. something from the early 2000s in a diesel or a few years newer in a gas 3/4 ton or one ton pickup might work... Or as has been suggested before -keep the Tundra for now and maybe in the future trade it in on a new(er) Tundra??

 

[tcartwri]

The 6.2 will eat ANY of the previous diesels??
so if you compare the highest 6.2s hp 385 tq =434 @4179 RPM or the over 10k gvwr 316 hp tq 397@4179 RPM to even the say 04.5 cummins @ 325hp tq 600@1600RPM Hmmm towing anything , low end torque is of importance the Cummins will be making 600 ft lbs. at 1600 RPMs the 6.2 ford will be Lucky to make maybe 275 ft lbs. at 1600 rpm??? (no turbo- right? ) I don't see it, or are Cummins not being compared?? the 6.2s torque #s are at rpms not normally seen ?? What gives?? got the 6.2 specs off of Meadowland Fords site.. anyone seen a graph with the torque displayed- from say 1400 rpm and up ??

Peak torque on the gassers happens at a much higher rpm, allowing for deeper gearsets in the diff. That's why they are competitive. Torque numbers are only part of the equation. Gear multiplication has a huge influence on the performance of the truck.

 

[94BULLITT]

Peak torque on the gassers happens at a much higher rpm, allowing for deeper gearsets in the diff. That's why they are competitive. Torque numbers are only part of the equation. Gear multiplication has a huge influence on the performance of the truck.

If you take a new for 6.7 800ftlbs x 3.55 rear axle = 2800
A 6.2 gas 420ftlbs x 4.30 rear axle= 1741

 

[tcartwri]

If you take a new for 6.7 800ftlbs x 3.55 rear axle = 2800
A 6.2 gas 420ftlbs x 4.30 rear axle= 1741

with a 1:1 ratio in the tranny, this is correct. However the wider rpm range of the gasser will be able to hold the lower tranny gears over a greater road speed, and this is why they can stay close in a pulling race. In terms of useable pulling power in an everyday situation, the diesel obviously wins. You would not want to drive a gasser with the throttle on the firewall for hours on end like you can with a diesel.