Which truck would you get?
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RedNeckRacin
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While thats true, the majority of people do not take the liberities of stepping up to mobil one if they are worried about the cost of an oil change. All the little lube places always advertise 3k too btw. (not saying they are right) If you really want to get fancy, in a diesel you can run it alot longer with synthetics than 10k if you do oil sampling! One of the benefits of holding 3-4 times the amount of oil. :thumbsup:
I'm not trying to critize you, but there are exceptions to almost every rule.
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Interestingly, we had that debate in my college English class and the various people there couldn't seem to grasp that 1 $35 oil change every 10k miles (doing it yourself with M1) is cheaper than 3.3 $15 oil changes in the same 10k miles (doing it yourself with dino oil).
As for the mileage, I have a friend who swears by 25k intervals with M1 and filter changes every 7-10k miles (and he warranties his engine rebuilds to go 500k with those change intervals).
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I have heard of people super miling their engine oils, but I'm really not that comfortable enough with it to make those claims, let alone suggest them. For as cheap as an oil change is compared to a brand new engine tear out and install, (esp in a diesel
) i'll just change the oil more frequently! If you really want to get fancy, they sell those aftermarket couple micron filters for your oil and fuel. Those are supposed to do wonders but eh, i'm not to interested.aczlan
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I agree. 10k works well for me, it ends up being in Nov when I change the oil and throw on snowtires...I have heard of people super miling their engine oils, but I'm really not that comfortable enough with it to make those claims, let alone suggest them. For as cheap as an oil change is compared to a brand new engine tear out and install, (esp in a diesel
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Thats usually my number as well. Nice and simple keeping track of oil changes and its not to long nor to short. Plus, changing my own oil, i look at the overall condition of my vehicles so I can keep an eye on things. Its amazing what you can catch just by rolling underneath them from time to time.
mudcat47537
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I would just keep the vehicle you have and save money. You know what you have now and you did say it does fine. Possibly trade for a different truck that would be minimally better, that you will have to spend more money on to get set up.
Mikeeemo
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You may want to consider the '07 - UP Tundra.
5.7L V8, much larger brakes, 10k tow rating, more room, larger axle on the 'Tow' models.
The best part.... Not a million $$$.
5.7L V8, much larger brakes, 10k tow rating, more room, larger axle on the 'Tow' models.
The best part.... Not a million $$$.
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Thanks for the feedback, both ways.
A couple of things I can point out. In 2006 I started off with a GMC 1500 Sierra ext cab, 5.3L 315hp and 4.10 axles. Bought it specifically to tow with, but within the first 2 weeks it had to have a new alternator, and that was the beginning of the end. In the next 3 months I had it back in the shop 10 times. Yes 10 times. EIght of them were for a vibration no one could figure out, and they really tried everything in the book. Long story short, CA lemon law. By the time this all transpired the '06s were gone and it was only '07s. Well I tried and tried, and with only one GM dealer within 50 miles, I ended up being stuck with an Ahole of a sales manager. After a few not so nice words I told him I should just get my money back and buy a Toyota, he said that was what I ought to do.
I had beed working with the Better Business Bureau (thats who you first contact for a lemon law claim) and a rep from GM in Mich. When I called the BBB rep and told her what happened and that I wanted my money back instead of a new truck, she got the GM rep on a 3 way call. He was SHOCKED they said that. These two reps were fantastic to deal with through the whole process, and didn't miss a beat. I got my money back (had paid cash for the truck) and bought the Tundra.
I did drive the '07 Ford, and to me, the 5.4 seemed weak, and the brakes were iffy. I drove and liked a 3/4 ton Ford, but their prices were through the roof, and wern't budging one bit. Sticker price! I paid about 28K for my Sierra and the 3/4 was closer to 36K. I didn't have the extra $$$. In retrospect, I wish I had just financed the difference. I also drove the '07 Dodge with the Hemi, and although power was good, it seemed to come on higher than I liked, and just didn't like the feel of the whole truck.
I did drive the '07 Tundra, but it had a very similar vibration that the GMC had, and I was leary of a repeat. They only had one 4x4 on their whole lot so it was a one shot deal. Not happy with that. Plus the fact that it was a first year model change and I walked away from it.
So here I am.
Now, on the gasser idea, when Iwas camping in Columbia, CA last summer, one of the guys in the group had bought a new Ford 3/4T but ordered the 6.2L gas engine and 6spd auto, instead of diesel. Not sure the axle ration, but most likely 3.73. Anyway he was towing about an 8-9K 5th wheel and said the truck would pull it on grades faster than he wanted to drive. He averaged about 12-13 towing, he said, and usually 18-19 when empty. He claimed he had gotten 21 before cause the engine is loafing along at 65.
SO I have considered that route as well.
I cannot argue with the fact that newer 1/2T are bigger and stronger than mine, even the newer Tundras are also. The jusry is still out for me on the Ford Ecoboost. I am leary of how hard the little engine has to work to tow. Does the ecoboost use reg gas or premium? Every turbo model I know of uses premium.
A couple of things I can point out. In 2006 I started off with a GMC 1500 Sierra ext cab, 5.3L 315hp and 4.10 axles. Bought it specifically to tow with, but within the first 2 weeks it had to have a new alternator, and that was the beginning of the end. In the next 3 months I had it back in the shop 10 times. Yes 10 times. EIght of them were for a vibration no one could figure out, and they really tried everything in the book. Long story short, CA lemon law. By the time this all transpired the '06s were gone and it was only '07s. Well I tried and tried, and with only one GM dealer within 50 miles, I ended up being stuck with an Ahole of a sales manager. After a few not so nice words I told him I should just get my money back and buy a Toyota, he said that was what I ought to do.
I had beed working with the Better Business Bureau (thats who you first contact for a lemon law claim) and a rep from GM in Mich. When I called the BBB rep and told her what happened and that I wanted my money back instead of a new truck, she got the GM rep on a 3 way call. He was SHOCKED they said that. These two reps were fantastic to deal with through the whole process, and didn't miss a beat. I got my money back (had paid cash for the truck) and bought the Tundra.
I did drive the '07 Ford, and to me, the 5.4 seemed weak, and the brakes were iffy. I drove and liked a 3/4 ton Ford, but their prices were through the roof, and wern't budging one bit. Sticker price! I paid about 28K for my Sierra and the 3/4 was closer to 36K. I didn't have the extra $$$. In retrospect, I wish I had just financed the difference. I also drove the '07 Dodge with the Hemi, and although power was good, it seemed to come on higher than I liked, and just didn't like the feel of the whole truck.
I did drive the '07 Tundra, but it had a very similar vibration that the GMC had, and I was leary of a repeat. They only had one 4x4 on their whole lot so it was a one shot deal. Not happy with that. Plus the fact that it was a first year model change and I walked away from it.
So here I am.
Now, on the gasser idea, when Iwas camping in Columbia, CA last summer, one of the guys in the group had bought a new Ford 3/4T but ordered the 6.2L gas engine and 6spd auto, instead of diesel. Not sure the axle ration, but most likely 3.73. Anyway he was towing about an 8-9K 5th wheel and said the truck would pull it on grades faster than he wanted to drive. He averaged about 12-13 towing, he said, and usually 18-19 when empty. He claimed he had gotten 21 before cause the engine is loafing along at 65.
SO I have considered that route as well.
I cannot argue with the fact that newer 1/2T are bigger and stronger than mine, even the newer Tundras are also. The jusry is still out for me on the Ford Ecoboost. I am leary of how hard the little engine has to work to tow. Does the ecoboost use reg gas or premium? Every turbo model I know of uses premium.
fordmantpw
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He is pulling your leg, plain and simple. The 6.2L is a great towing engine (I've heard better than the V10), and certainly better on fuel than the V10, but there's no way he's getting the fuel economy numbers he told you. It just ain't happening!
The EcoBoost has been a great engine for Ford. Check out some of the videos of the torture they put that engine through. It runs just fine on regular gas, but Ford recommends premium if towing heavy or towing at high altitudes. It also makes a bit more power on premium too.
