Which type, then brand of framing nailer?

   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #62  
As much as I praise Hitachi I can confirm that ring shank nails (I used stainless) in quality pressure treated wood can be a problem. I also needed to finish drive some 30% by hand.
They do offer more resistance both in insertion as well as pull out. In fact often you end up pulling the heads off
I say quality as that particular decking was KD before treating (like green all the way, not just surface) and not the quick dunk green wood variety.
And yes old dry studs are harder to drive nails into and they also split easily.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer?
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#63  
As much as I praise Hitachi I can confirm that ring shank nails (I used stainless) in quality pressure treated wood can be a problem. I also needed to finish drive some 30% by hand.
They do offer more resistance both in insertion as well as pull out. In fact often you end up pulling the heads off
I say quality as that particular decking was KD before treating (like green all the way, not just surface) and not the quick dunk green wood variety.
And yes old dry studs are harder to drive nails into and they also split easily.
The deck I built in '85 lasted until about '09. Didn't have any nails "work out". Did not have ANY problems pulling them to redeck. Because I just slipped my sawzall between the joist and the deck and cut them off at the joist!!


I learned early on that "ring shanks" don't pull out. Easier to cut off and reuse the lumber.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #64  
The deck I built in '85 lasted until about '09. Didn't have any nails "work out". Did not have ANY problems pulling them to redeck. Because I just slipped my sawzall between the joist and the deck and cut them off at the joist!!


I learned early on that "ring shanks" don't pull out. Easier to cut off and reuse the lumber.
Yep... no pulling ring shanks!!!! :smiley_aafz:

I still say screws are the way to go for any decking.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #65  
I have these glue coated galvanized ring shank nails for my framing gun, that I use for general framing and to nail down decking, stair treads, etc. To get one out, I have to put all my weight on the end of an 18" pry bar, and then in many cases the nail head will fold before the nail comes out. Pretty remarkable.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #66  
Yep... no pulling ring shanks!!!! :smiley_aafz:

I still say screws are the way to go for any decking.

On my own deck I might go that way but for most clients that are price shopping the nail gun would be the way to go.

I am 6 ft and frankly when I walk out on a deck I don't notice nails but I do see other signs of sloppy work and mostly poor structural details like hanger brackets partially nailed and railing posts that are simply toenailed on the surface and than again posts that are screwed to the side of a header rather than under a master beam.

In my opinion nails neatly spaced 2 per joist is not ugly but that is only my opinion.

Then railings under 42" and wide gaps that kids can get hung up on etc etc.
Some I have seen would get insurances cancelled.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #67  
I prefer air nailer over cordless, I have a set of cordless paslodes that my father in law had he was a self employed contractor, I also used others before and always found them kind of a pain, they seemed to miss fire more than any air nailer I've used and I didn't care for the weight and balance of them. I have a porter cable that works well and wasn't real expensive, I have had good luck with Bostitch too. I would just feel them make sure you like the weight and shape then go with that, all of them are dependable enough for occasional use I would just stay away from the real cheap stuff, Campbell hausfield would be one I'd avoid or any cheap harbor freight type stuff. Also make sure you get one that accepts nails that are easy to find and generic brands are available
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #68  
I use screws a lot, as they hold the wood together so well. When nails are needed, then I use the good old fashioned framing hammer. As for finishing, I have a Mastercraft air nailer(no coment...), and a Porter Cable air nailer(very light,never a jam). Hoses draging all around are no fun. When I decide on building my pole barn, I will get the Dewalt 20V cordless framing nailer. A little costly in the begining, but the rapidity of execution is unmatched. And it's portability is second to none, especially when working on ladders and other precarious situations. A real keeper for a one man crew.
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #69  
I will get the Dewalt 20V cordless framing nailer.... And it's portability is second to none,

Unless you compare it to any of the other cordless nailers... The DeWalt is 25% heavier than the Paslode, that wears on you quick
 
   / Which type, then brand of framing nailer? #70  
Shop Hitachi 1-Piece 3.5-in x 0.14-in Roundhead Framing Pneumatic Nail Gun at Lowes.com.

I've owned DeWalt, Senco, Porter Cable, Bostitch, Ridged, and Hitachi. I've also tried other brands that belong to guys on jobs I've been on. Hitachi is by far the best one that I've owned and the only one I would buy again. The other brands are either super heavy, awkward, or they just start to fall apart after a couple cases of nails.

Eddie

I also have a full round head hitachi that thing is a beast. Mine was made in Japan. The newer ones say made in china. I can't speak for their reliability
 

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