Who still drives a stick in 2025?

   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #41  
25 years ago transmissions were better. Think about a C-6 ford or the GM TH 350-400. As long as you changed the juice every 70k+/- they would last forever.
As I type this I'm thinking about today's HP also.....
never mind, maybe. 🤣
Don't think any of those old trannies would hold up to the torque of a diesel in today's pickups...I believe all of them are now rated over 1000 lb-ft of torque. If I remember correctly the new Superduty is at 1200 lb-ft of torque. I think the GM Turbo 400 you mentioned was supposed to be the strongest of them all back then - but it is rated to handle only 450 lb-ft of torque.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #42  
I drive my stick shift samurai at least weekly if not more.

I was at the hardware store and a young guy asked me if it’s hard to drive?

I said no… I learned to drive with a stick.

Another skill set fading with time.

How many TBN members own/drive manual transmission vehicle(s) in 2025?
I do and prefer a standard over a slush box, every time. My 2014 Ford Focus RS is a 6 speed and last time I checked, both my Kubota M series tractors were multi speed standards as well and I rarely use a clutch except for the initial start out and full stop only. Thinking about it, my Western Star long nose conventional I pull a grain trailer with is an 18 speed Road Ranger behind a Cat 3406. Almost forgot about it as it's sleeping for the winter. It's a grain hauling outfit.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #43  
Don't think any of those old trannies would hold up to the torque of a diesel in today's pickups...I believe all of them are now rated over 1000 lb-ft of torque. If I remember correctly the new Superduty is at 1200 lb-ft of torque. I think the GM Turbo 400 you mentioned was supposed to be the strongest of them all back then - but it is rated to handle only 450 lb-ft of torque.
Wrong, totally wrong in fact. Just because we live in a PRNDL society don't mean even an ancient stick shift cannot handle the torque and 1000 foot pounds is puzzy torque compared to a Class 8 turbo diesel like a Cat. The Cat in my farm truck makes around 1900 foot pounds of torque on average.

Even the new trucks of today with their 'automatic' transmissions are, in fact, servo shifted manuals.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #45  
Wrong, totally wrong in fact. Just because we live in a PRNDL society don't mean even an ancient stick shift cannot handle the torque and 1000 foot pounds is puzzy torque compared to a Class 8 turbo diesel like a Cat. The Cat in my farm truck makes around 1900 foot pounds of torque on average.

Even the new trucks of today with their 'automatic' transmissions are, in fact, servo shifted manuals.
You’re comparing apples to oranges. You’re talking about heavy diesel trucks VS a 3/4-1 ton pickup truck with a diesel. Those older manual and automatic transmissions won’t stand up to the torque of modern diesels in the current super duty pickups.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025?
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#46  
A fun game we played when learning to drive was shifting without the clutch...rev matching and finding that notch without grinding any metal. I still enjoy that today 55 yrs later.
Most of my manuals are not Synchromesh so to be a proficient operator you become one with the machine.

When I worked at the dealership as a lot boy in high school I was able to take a car home and it was fun to keep people guessing because I never drove the same car twice... one day a $400 trade and the next day a late model that needed driving.

It was a great job for a teen that liked cars.

When I think back it would have been great to have many of those cars now... during the gas shortage the big stuff went for pennies...

Used with stick was always cheaper because less demand from pintos to 396 chevelle. The Road Runners couldn't give away...

There was a sweet low mileage 68 Mustang V8 fastback with stick... traded because it was a stick.

The owner of the dealership said why tie up your money as you can drive cars from the used lot and don't have to pay tags, insurance and gas?
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #47  
A fun game we played when learning to drive was shifting without the clutch...rev matching and finding that notch without grinding any metal. I still enjoy that today 55 yrs later.
I used to drive my big trucks with manuals like that, too.
However, after just a few mistakes of trying to force a shift, you can ruin the shift fork, or input shaft.
Double clutching on a big twin countershaft transmission like an Eaton Fuller 18 speed is still best on them.
I could shift clutch less on my Spicer 7 speed pretty good.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #48  
Pontiac Vibe 5 speed and a Toyota SR5. And my cousin's Honda Fit wagon with a five speed while she's traveling in Europe.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025?
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#49  
Viscosity of trans oil made all the difference with non Synchromesh.

A guy brought his Model A to me saying he couldn't drive it without grinding the gears.

Someone put light gear oil instead of 600w.

The 600w added just the right amount of drag needed.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025?
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#50  
Mom always drove a stick until she bought her one and only new car...

She taught me how to double clutch on that old VW.

When she bought the new car she was introduced to automatic, power steering and A/C

She did miss the shifting but really appreciated power steering.
 

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